Barack Obama's Legacy -- How strong of a President is he historically?
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Obama didn't want to govern, he wanted to rule.
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hadn't he already achieved his signature health care reform by that point?Otern wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:12 pmThe whole gun control push he went for after Sandy Hook is probably the stupidest thing he could've done, and it happened solely because he didn't understand gun culture and politics. If he'd push for improved access to health care for all Americans instead, at that time, he could've succeeded. He could've used NRA rhetoric, to get a democrat goal through, as the NRA even talked about improving mental health care and so on, instead of focusing on guns. It was an opportunity to compromise with the Republicans, improve health care, while guaranteeing not going after guns, maybe even remove some of the dumbest gun laws.
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Otern wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:12 pmI don't think that's entirely fair. He did care about health care and gun control. He wanted to improve the US, as the democrats see it. It's just that his political crusades made it impossible to properly cooperate with the Republicans. And he's not solely to blame either, as Mitch McConnell and many other Republicans were just as partisan.C-Mag wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:56 am+1
When you look at what BHO really cared about he was somewhat effective. He didn't care about most of the things we traditionally think of a POTUS responsibilities. His main goal was to make Social Justice a viable political force and thereby destroy the America he could never be proud of. Well, Social Justice was nothing before BHO, and now it's everywhere. So, in defense of BHO, he did pretty well there.
He just didn't know how to seek compromise, but tried fueling the flames to get everything, which backfired when it only paved the way for Trump winning.
The whole gun control push he went for after Sandy Hook is probably the stupidest thing he could've done, and it happened solely because he didn't understand gun culture and politics. If he'd push for improved access to health care for all Americans instead, at that time, he could've succeeded. He could've used NRA rhetoric, to get a democrat goal through, as the NRA even talked about improving mental health care and so on, instead of focusing on guns. It was an opportunity to compromise with the Republicans, improve health care, while guaranteeing not going after guns, maybe even remove some of the dumbest gun laws.
You're more generous than I am. However, you are right. BHO absolutely wanted to see government monopolize the use of force. It's pretty clear that Fast N Furious was designed to shift public opinion on Firearms possession. But a Border Patrol Officer got killed with one of his smuggled guns then the Border Patrol and ATF used that death to get the press eyes on Fast N Furious, which they were pissed about. BHO never understood American firearms liberty traditions and how deep those beliefs are held. It was a blind spot for BHO.
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Wtf? TRUMAN slides through with 0%?!?C-Mag wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:48 amQuinpiac Poll - Who's the worst POTUS since WWII
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-de ... aseID=2056
The man who put the world on a glide path to nuclear destruction???
“I've got a phone that allows me to convene Americans from every walk of life, nonprofits, businesses, the private sector, universities to try to bring more and more Americans together around what I think is a unifying theme..." - Obama
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Benghazi cover up tied to U.S. gun-smuggling operation: Documents
The headline you will never see. The press has been running cover for BHO his entire career and post presidency. But it's true. Some day all the facts of Fast N Furious and Spying will come out too. But they got away with it. Have a friendly press, and tell enough lies and you can completely cheat lady justice.
Anyway, if you want to read the Benhazi proof https://www.aim.org/guest-column/bengha ... documents/
The headline you will never see. The press has been running cover for BHO his entire career and post presidency. But it's true. Some day all the facts of Fast N Furious and Spying will come out too. But they got away with it. Have a friendly press, and tell enough lies and you can completely cheat lady justice.
Anyway, if you want to read the Benhazi proof https://www.aim.org/guest-column/bengha ... documents/
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Disturbing. I have less and less faith regarding the Judicial Branch.C-Mag wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 1:33 pmBenghazi cover up tied to U.S. gun-smuggling operation: Documents
The headline you will never see. The press has been running cover for BHO his entire career and post presidency. But it's true. Some day all the facts of Fast N Furious and Spying will come out too. But they got away with it. Have a friendly press, and tell enough lies and you can completely cheat lady justice.
Anyway, if you want to read the Benhazi proof https://www.aim.org/guest-column/bengha ... documents/
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They were hiding so much from the American People when it came to the crimes happening under BHO that this doesn't amaze me at all.C-Mag wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 1:33 pmBenghazi cover up tied to U.S. gun-smuggling operation: Documents
The headline you will never see. The press has been running cover for BHO his entire career and post presidency. But it's true. Some day all the facts of Fast N Furious and Spying will come out too. But they got away with it. Have a friendly press, and tell enough lies and you can completely cheat lady justice.
Anyway, if you want to read the Benhazi proof https://www.aim.org/guest-column/bengha ... documents/
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If Trump was on there you could just slide the percentage for W onto Trump. Let's be honest Johnson was worse than Obama .complacent in killing the sitting pres and widen the welfare state plus vastly escalated Vietnam but didn't go for enough to actually win so he is doublely guilty in my eyes.
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Alex Jones was talking about that years ago. Yet another thing he's been right about I guess. Hope he's wrong about the clockwork elves..... hehC-Mag wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 1:33 pmBenghazi cover up tied to U.S. gun-smuggling operation: Documents
The headline you will never see. The press has been running cover for BHO his entire career and post presidency. But it's true. Some day all the facts of Fast N Furious and Spying will come out too. But they got away with it. Have a friendly press, and tell enough lies and you can completely cheat lady justice.
Anyway, if you want to read the Benhazi proof https://www.aim.org/guest-column/bengha ... documents/
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Which Johnson, both sucked. But I agree. LBJ is in a close run for first with Woody Wilson.GloryofGreece wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 5:08 pmIf Trump was on there you could just slide the percentage for W onto Trump. Let's be honest Johnson was worse than Obama .complacent in killing the sitting pres and widen the welfare state plus vastly escalated Vietnam but didn't go for enough to actually win so he is doublely guilty in my eyes.
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