Barack Obama's Legacy -- How strong of a President is he historically?

[TheReal_ND]

No matter how much you may hate him, he was the final “statesman” president, before we descended into reality tv.

He was the first "internet president" claimed Jew York Times

[pineapplemike]

didnt newsweek call him the first gay president too? maybe time magazine idk

he was a total celebrity but he was still rather statesman-like

[C-Mag]

No matter how much you may hate him, he was the final “statesman” president, before we descended into reality tv.

I don't see it.
How was BHO a great Statesman ?

[clubgop]

No matter how much you may hate him, he was the final “statesman” president, before we descended into reality tv.

That's a load of bullshit. He was the first reality tv show President. The selfie stick, between two ferns, interviewed by youtubers best known for bathing in cereal. There are a bunch of examples. He was reality tv trying not to be reality tv. Figures GCF likes a hoax and can't tell the difference when it's polished above the standards of PBS.

[Haumana]

No matter how much you may hate him, he was the final “statesman” president, before we descended into reality tv.

That's a load of bullshit. He was the first reality tv show President. The selfie stick, between two ferns, interviewed by youtubers best known for bathing in cereal. There are a bunch of examples. He was reality tv trying not to be reality tv. Figures GCF likes a hoax and can't tell the difference when it's polished above the standards of PBS.

Nevermind his terrible stutter when he went truly off script statesman.

[PartyOf5]

No matter how much you may hate him, he was the final “statesman” president, before we descended into reality tv.

Who can forget such statesmen-like actions:

- Holding a beer summit after calling out the Police for "acting stupidly" when answering the call of a break-in and being met with a hostile man inside the house.
- Claiming that "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" right before many then lost access to their doctors through their insurance when the ACA kicked in.
- Sending pallets of cash to Iran in exchange for hostages
- Threatening a "red line" that was subsequently crossed, and then he did......nothing.

I know there are more, but these are first that came to mind.

My take is that the documented history of him will be more favorable than the word of mouth that gets passed on from one generation to the next. The media will make sure that the more "official" historical records view him as Mount Rushmore worthy, while the "word on the street" will be less complimentary.

[C-Mag]

If a leader is a GREAT Statesman he should be really, really easy to defend in that regard. So far it's crickets.

[Montegriffo]

Signed Paris climate accord.
Established higher fuel efficiency standards.
Through 2009 EPA regulations, declared carbon dioxide a pollutant, allowing the agency to regulate its production.
Signed the Omnibus Public Lands Management Act of 2009.
Cut Veteran Homelessness by Half.
Reduced the federal deficit from 9.8 percent of GDP in 2009 to 3.2 percent in 2016.
Passed Health Care Reform.
Passed Wall Street Reform.
Eliminated Osama bin Laden.
Ended U.S. Combat Missions in Iraq and Afghanistan
Supported Federal Recognition of Same-Sex Marriages.
Established Rules to Limit Carbon Emissions from Power Plants.
Normalized Relations with Cuba.
Improved America’s Image Abroad.
Let the Space Shuttle Die and Killed the Planned Moon Mission.

Avoided Scandal.

[pineapplemike]

he only avoided scandal because the corporate media gave him a pass

i'm not sure what everyone's definition of "statesman" is, my point was that he carried himself well and typically stayed above the fray. he was great at being the president, but that doesn't necessarily make him a good president

[Speaker to Animals]

Fuck the idea of a "Statesman" president. Fuck that shit all the way back to Europe where it came from.

Chamberlain was a statesman.

If you want a statesman, then move to England, disarm yourself, and prepare your daughters for Muslim sex slavery.