FDA trials for ecstasy for PTSD

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FDA trials for ecstasy for PTSD

Post by SilverEagle » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:29 pm

So.....yeah lets allow trials for Ecstasy for PTSD but Cannabis is the worst drug in the world and we won't allow a FDA approved trial? WTF?????

http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/11/ ... treatment/
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Re: FDA trials for ecstasy for PTSD

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:54 pm

Weed is a gateway drug.

This kid can't pay attention. He needs speed.
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Re: FDA trials for ecstasy for PTSD

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:55 pm

I thought they were using MDMA for therapy years ago. I guess the FDA is moving forward with it but I think in some cases psychiatrists could get sanctioned to do it in a controlled setting.

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Re: FDA trials for ecstasy for PTSD

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:58 pm

Yeah, I think they used it on college kids. Probably MKUltra.
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Re: FDA trials for ecstasy for PTSD

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:20 pm

Have you ever tried MDMA? It can be therapeutic.

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Re: FDA trials for ecstasy for PTSD

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:21 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:Have you ever tried MDMA? It can be therapeutic.
I don't know about therapeutic, but it was enjoyable.
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Re: FDA trials for ecstasy for PTSD

Post by Ex-California » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:40 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:I thought they were using MDMA for therapy years ago. I guess the FDA is moving forward with it but I think in some cases psychiatrists could get sanctioned to do it in a controlled setting.
I think it was originally used for therapy, then went recreational, and now is swinging back to the therapy again.

I wholly believe it can be a therapeutic drug, but its always going to be more fun than therapeutic. I guess a small clinical dose will do different things to you than me dropping 3 pills cut with speed and dancing all night like I used to
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Re: FDA trials for ecstasy for PTSD

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:44 pm

I think they use pure MDMA in a clinical setting so it's a lot cleaner and less is needed. Basically all it does is force your brain to drop its serotonin all at once, which probably renders it conducive to re-wiring with positive thoughts. In the case of PTSD I bet it's quite effective at getting people to walk through what happened and at least temporarily become at peace with it. That probably has a long lasting residual effect.

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Re: FDA trials for ecstasy for PTSD

Post by LVH2 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:32 am

TheReal_ND wrote: I guess a small clinical dose will do different things to you than me dropping 3 pills cut with speed and dancing all night like I used to
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Re: FDA trials for ecstasy for PTSD

Post by Ex-California » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:30 am

LVH2 wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote: I guess a small clinical dose will do different things to you than me dropping 3 pills cut with speed and dancing all night like I used to
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