What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by BjornP » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:45 am

What sort of information would be relayed in those intelligence debriefings? Anyone know? It seems unlikely to be the sort of information that any, average consumer of daily news has access to, i.e. this:
Even geopolitically speaking, how much does this shit change day to day? Oh Iran still wants to get a nuke? North Korea still wants to flex some muscle? You don't say. China is still building islands in the south China sea? Really?
Or maybe that's what they really are. Do you know that that is the sort of information relayed in the CinC daily intelligence briefings, Haumana?
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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:58 am

BjornP wrote:What sort of information would be relayed in those intelligence debriefings? Anyone know? It seems unlikely to be the sort of information that any, average consumer of daily news has access to, i.e. this:
Here's a copy of a page from a Nixon PDB, with Nixon's notes in the margins;

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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:00 am

Just a summary of the daily traffic judged to be of some interest to the President, by the briefers, in this case, Kissinger. Vast troves of secretly gleaned information, they ain't.

The whole media fabrication of the President having access to troves of secret information that nobody else knows anything about, is just the American media version of "The Great and Powerful Oz!"
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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by clubgop » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:10 am

Smitty-48 wrote:Just a summary of the daily traffic judged to be of some interest to the President, by the briefers, in this case, Kissinger. Vast troves of secretly gleaned information, they ain't.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:17 am

Nixon actually refused to have the CIA brief him, because he said the CIA were in the pocket of the Democrats, because they had fucked him on the "Missile Gap" when he was VP; there was no Missile Gap, the Pentagon said there was no Missile Gap, Nixon said there was no Missile Gap, but then the CIA fabricated intelligence that said there was a Missile Gap, and they gave it to Kennedy, who then used that against Nixon in the election of 1960, after that, Nixon didn't trust the CIA and wouldn't let them do the briefings, he had Kissinger do all the briefings.

Basically, what we're seeing here is the same sort of thing, the Intelligence agencies are against Trump and for the Democrats and Cucks in Congress, so they are feeding shit to the liberal media to gin up oppositon to Trump, as I said, Trump needs to do a Stalinist purge, get rid of all the Obamabots and replace them with his own people.
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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by StCapps » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:23 am

Smitty-48 wrote:Nixon actually refused to have the CIA brief him, because he said the CIA were in the pocket of the Democrats, because they had fucked him on the "Missile Gap" when he was VP; there was no Missile Gap, the Pentagon said there was no Missile Gap, Nixon said there was no Missile Gap, but then the CIA fabricated intelligence that said there was a Missile Gap, and they gave it to Kennedy, who then used that against Nixon in the election of 1960, after that, Nixon didn't trust the CIA and wouldn't let them do the briefings, he had Kissinger do all the briefings.
Eisenhower kind of boned Nixon by not calling JFK out on that and Nixon kind of fucked up by saying "nuh uh, just ask Eisenhower, it's bullshit". GOP dropped the ball big time on that one, what a terribly run campaign. Visiting all fifty states, even states he had in the bag, what a dummy.
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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:28 am

Yeah, well, now Obama is boning Trump, by using the Intelligence agencies as a partisan cudgel in the liberal media, which is infinitely more corrosive to US national security, than Trump skipping a bullshit briefing.

Obama and the Cucks in Congress, are undermining the national security, by hijacking US Intel to use it as a political football, which is actually par for the course in Washington, which is why US Intel actually sucks.

Honestly, if I was President, I'd rather be briefed by the British, the Russians, and the Isrealis, and then aggregate the three views.

As an American, the last people you can trust is other Americans, as they are all biased, corrupt, and totally full of shit.

A President could glean more usefull information, simply by finding out what other countries want him to know, and then comparing all that to aggregate a common operating picture.

I'd trust Langley about as far as I could throw it, ain't nobody on this here green earth, that is more biased, corrupt, and totally full of shit, than the US intelligence agencies.

The fact that Trump is independent enough to come out and speak the truth of the CIA being totally full of shit; feature, not a bug.
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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:18 am

lol I heard Iraq has WMD's.

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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by The Conservative » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:29 am

Haumana wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:

That guy is a putz. His use of the word demagogue bugged me though. As if, "Hope and Change" wasn't demagoguery?
I had an issue with him saying, "That being said"... it's his fallback instead of saying "but"...
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Re: What is the Chance of an Electoral College Revolt?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:31 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Penner wrote:WTF, this is true. Trump told the press that he will not be reading his daily intelligence briefings but instead told them that he might look at them like once or twice a week (at best) and even said he was too smart to read them. Plus, his VP Pence was the one who was literally reading them every day. That's a real story being told. It's not some liberal whining. This guy doesn't want to do his duties as president.
The President has no duty to attend a daily intelligence brief, nor even to read the PDB, the President can choose to source his intelligence when and from where, as he deems neccesary.

Prior to 1961, there was no such thing as a PDB.

PDB has nothing to do with Article II, the PDB is entirely at the beck and call of the POTUS, or not, as the POTUS so chooses, the POTUS could cancel PDB's alltogether, not even at the stroke of the pen, but merely by saying "knock it off".

The President is Commander-in-Chief, the intelligence agencies don't tell him how to suck eggs, nor does the liberal media, nor the oppisition in congress, nor the opposing party, the CinC decides how, where, when, and why he is to be briefed, entirely at his discretion.

A President can come in on day one, and say that he's changing everything, the whole way the Executive does business, from top to bottom, without seeking anyones leave do so, that's what being President means.
You're actually defending willful ignorance in the Commander in Chief of the world's most powerful military? There is no limit to how far you guys will stretch to justify the actions of Imperitus - it's fascinating to watch..

On the other hand, it might actually be prudent, as our burgeoning Police State consolidates power. You'll be exempted as loyal subjects for a time, I suppose.
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