THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:04 am

Stock up. Because if America devolves into a civil war of any intensity, it's going to be a tough time for Europe.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Fife » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:12 am

Will any fiat currency in the world survive for long if federal city commits any level of seppuku?

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:16 am

Fife wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:12 am
Will any fiat currency in the world survive for long if federal city commits any level of seppuku?
Negative.

Barter fun times ahead!

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:19 am

Monte
You post a lot of memes making Trump out to be an idiot. You all say there are crimes there, we just havent found them yet.

Which is he?
Trump the bumbling fool, or

Trump the evil genius who's been able to hide his crimes from the best investigators in the world for 3 years.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:41 am

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:19 am
Monte
You post a lot of memes making Trump out to be an idiot. You all say there are crimes there, we just havent found them yet.

Which is he?
Trump the bumbling fool, or

Trump the evil genius who's been able to hide his crimes from the best investigators in the world for 3 years.
I don't think he has hidden his crimes particularly well. Some of them he outright brags about. Without his Presidential immunity, he'd be doing porridge for obstruction at the very least.
It's just that his base gives him a pass for most of it 'cos Hillary.
If I ''just grabbed them by the pussy without even asking'' I'd be on a register.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:52 am

Obstruction?

WTF did obstruct ?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:01 am

Monte
Sounds like you are saying Trumps an idiot who isn't hiding his crimes.

If true, why didn't the Special Counsel find those crimes ?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:22 am

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:52 am
Obstruction?

WTF did obstruct ?
Come on, you know this.
He fired Comey and twice tried to fire Mueller.
It was left to Congress to decide whether to pursue charges of obstruction and they bottled out.
He tried to get Comey to drop his investigation into Flynn.
He made Sessions resign so he could replace him with a lackey.
He lied to Mueller about his knowledge of contacts with Wikileaks.
He instructed Cohen to lie to Congress over his misuse of funds when he paid off his hooker.

The only thing he hasn't done yet is shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:41 am

:lol:
There's more known crimes on Comey.

More later.....
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:27 am

According to the IG

1. Outside of the FBI office, including at his home, Comey improperly used his personal safe and personal devices— including his laptop and printer– to create, revise, store and transmit memos about his conversations with President Trump.

2. These memos are government documents that belong to the public and require special handling. Some contained classified information. Comey improperly treated them as if they were personal memos.

3. Comey used his personal devices even though the FBI had outfitted his home with a secure, controlled access room— a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility)– designed for such purposes. The SCIF at Comey’s home contained a secure printer and a safe.
When asked why he failed to use the SCIF the FBI had installed in his home, Comey told the IG he “wasn’t thinking about [the memos]…[belonging to the] Government—[he] thought…this is for me” so he used his “personal unclass system.” Comey also described the SCIF as a “sweat box” and a “very, very small” windowless closet in his basement where it “was always about 110 degrees.”
The IG said Comey never told anyone he considered his memos about President Trump to be his personal property rather than government documents until the IG questioned him about the violations.
The IG found Comey’s argument that the memos were “personal records” to be “not reasonable” given statements he had made to the IG and others recognizing they were work-related, and given the “clarity of relevant provisions of law, policies, and Comey’s Employment Agreement.”

4. Despite knowing at the time that at least one memo contained classified information, Comey did not appropriately mark it with classification banners, portion markings, or a classification authority block. This violated an Executive Order as well as policies of the Intelligence Community, Justice Department and FBI.

5. When President Trump fired Comey on May 9, 2017, Comey failed to follow requirements to surrender the FBI documents stored in his personal home safe and did not tell the FBI about them.
We found it particularly concerning that Comey did not tell anyone from the FBI that he had retained copies of the Memos in his personal safe at home, even when his Chief of Staff, the FBI’s Associate Deputy Director, and three [Supervisory Special Agents] came to Comey’s house on May 12, 2017, to inventory and remove all FBI property.
Dept. of Justice Inspector General report, Aug. 2019

6. The IG found Comey committed multiple violations by releasing the government memos to third parties without required authorizations.
After he was fired, Comey improperly transmitted 12 copies of the memos to his personal attorneys (four memos to each of three lawyers).

7. Comey also gave a copy of one memo to his friend, Columbia law school professor Daniel Richman, with instructions for Richman to leak the information to the New York Times in order to achieve Comey’s stated, personal, political goal: appointment of a special counsel to investigate Trump-Russia collusion and obstruction of justice allegations.

8. After Comey was fired, FBI officials handling his departure obtained copies of the memos from FBI offices where Comey had distributed and stored them. These FBI officials did not know Comey retained some copies in his home safe. They also did not know he had leaked to the New York times, or given copies to his personal attorneys.
On June 7, 2017, the FBI gave Comey copies of all the memos to review before he testified about them to Congress. During this review, Comey saw markings indicating the FBI had classified additional material in one of his memos. However, Comey failed to alert the FBI that he had given copies of it to his personal attorneys.

9. On June 8, 2017, the FBI learned that Comey had shared with the New York Times– through an intermediary– the contents of one memo when he admitted it in Congressional testimony.
Comey told the IG he believed his leak to the New York Times would “change the game” by creating “extraordinary pressure on the leadership of the Department of Justice, which [Comey did] not trust,” to appoint a Special Counsel.
The IG found that Comey’s leak to the New York Times “made public sensitive investigative information related to an ongoing FBI investigation.”
Members of Comey’s senior leadership team used the adjectives “surprised,” “stunned,” “shocked,” and “disappointment” to describe their reactions to learning that Comey acted on his own to provide the contents of Memo 4, through Richman, to a reporter. The unauthorized disclosure of this information—information that Comey knew only by virtue of his position as FBI Director—violated the terms of his FBI Employment Agreement and the FBI’s Prepublication Review Policy.
Dept. of Justice Inspector General report, Aug. 2019

10. Comey was not fully forthright in his Congressional testimony on June 8, 2017. Although he admitted the New York Times leak, he omitted that he had also transmitted 12 additional copies to his personal attorneys without the required authorization. The FBI only learned this information when officials talked to Richman.


There are multiple specific crimes that can be charged here. Including perjury and espionage.
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