The Professor Watch List

[Xenophon]

Good works alone cannot save you, as you are born in sin. You must accept the one true religion.


My natural inclination is against such practices, but authoritarian cultists and, above all, anti-intellectuals seem to have infiltrated the academy.

I just now read a FB post from a lefty, but free speech academic. But, he is asserting that these are examples of open questions in the current climate:

In a discussion of the merits of affirmative action, may a student argue against it?

May a student express zer support of Donald Trump?

Yep, these people need to be handled. That's not really academic freedom, anymore than someone usurping a biology class to teach creationism, and prohibit discussion of Darwinism.

WOW! Did see how many labels you use ? Academic freedom is not a valid reason for someone to teach "Paulism", my brand new theory about the idiocy of labeling everything with words that can have no meaning. There is freedom do discuss everything in civil ways, always have, but the point of education is to make people better with more knowledge. I cannot demand that you teach "Paulism" because I say that is freedom, if and is a big if, "Paulism" is stupid and wrong, don't waste time with it, don't lead other to error or less knowledge, don't make their life worst. I guess that's why you don't have alternative math.

Who determines what to teach? Are you saying that college professors should be the arbiters of truth? For a secular man, you sure do have a lot of faith.

[LVH2]

I wouldn't even have a yuge problem with a prof squeezing Battlefield Earth into one of his classes and explaining why he believed in Scientology, and accepting criticism. A bit flaky, kind of a waste of time. But you go to college to learn about all kinds of goofy ideas and pick which ones appeal to you. You're still learning something.

You do not go for indoctrination into a cult, and to be blocked from hearing ideas or even sharing your own opinions.

I had one prof who was a super feminist, real big on racial stuff. But we read everything on those subjects, from Christina Hoff Summers to Andrea Dworkin. Black conservatives, to Assata Shakur. Then we'd break up into groups and explore our own reactions to the work. One of the best classes I ever took.

Took an AA studies class, at UC Santa Cruz no less. Also a great class. The guy made his case, presented different perspectives on the issues and we reacted however.

[Paulo]

I wouldn't even have a yuge problem with a prof squeezing Battlefield Earth into one of his classes and explaining why he believed in Scientology, and accepting criticism. A bit flaky, kind of a waste of time. But you go to college to learn about all kinds of goofy ideas and pick which ones appeal to you. You're still learning something.

You do not go for indoctrination into a cult, and to be blocked from hearing ideas or even sharing your own opinions.

I had one prof who was a super feminist, real big on racial stuff. But we read everything on those subjects, from Christina Hoff Summers to Andrea Dworkin. Black conservatives, to Assata Shakur. Then we'd break up into groups and explore our own reactions to the work. One of the best classes I ever took.

Took an AA studies class, at UC Santa Cruz no less. Also a great class. The guy made his case, presented different perspectives on the issues and we reacted however.

I don't know what kind of school you went, but that is not my recollection of mine. We did not accept professors wasting our precious and expensive time with BS and subjects that were not in our best interest. They did have an extensive curricular plan, with the courses and the subjects, I never knew or asked about my teachers religions or if they were this and that. They had a class to give and they did, some were good some were bad.

The only class I remember to have nice discussions was Philosophy. We have to agree that this is an appropriate class to discuss all kinds of crazy stuff. Again, I don't remember anyone being offended or wining about some other opinions or ideas, we listen we talked and we went out for the next class.
Sorry if I can't agree about going to college to learn about goofy ideas, that's what you do with your friends in a football game. I went to college to get the tools to be a productive human being,to learn to be good at my profession, not a fool.
If you are such a simple mind that you get indoctrinated by some teacher, it means that you will be indoctrinated by some fool in your city, it's not the teacher or the college's fault.

I guess this all controversy comes with all the fear that americans feel, all the time. Kind of general insecurity. Why the rest of the world don't feel the need to have Scientology, or discuss if the man went on the moon, or if climate change is real or not, or if you have to have so many bathrooms separations. C'mon that's bit too much. I even heard that some guy has a theory that the earth is flat!!!!!! american of course.



@ Xeno

Who determines what to teach? Are you saying that college professors should be the arbiters of truth? For a secular man, you sure do have a lot of faith.

Last time I checked, no college professor is arbiter of truth, they are just human beings like you and me with opinions and a very very hard job to do.

And when you create a college you have to have courses with subjects previously approved by the Minister of Education according with a national standard created after years of study by various specialists in pedagogy. At last here in Brasil.
Since we are a continental country with lots of states, it will not be fair to have some college to teach some people Calculus IV e not offer the same course in another college 3.000 miles away.

[Okeefenokee]

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[TheReal_ND]

I don't know what kind of school you went, but that is not my recollection of mine. We did not accept professors wasting our precious and expensive time with BS and subjects that were not in our best interest. They did have an extensive curricular plan, with the courses and the subjects, I never knew or asked about my teachers religions or if they were this and that. They had a class to give and they did, some were good some were bad.

This is why we don't win anymore. Take a good look at this shit right here. American education is a fucking joke. Look at it! Brazil is even laughing at us.

[Paulo]

I don't know what kind of school you went, but that is not my recollection of mine. We did not accept professors wasting our precious and expensive time with BS and subjects that were not in our best interest. They did have an extensive curricular plan, with the courses and the subjects, I never knew or asked about my teachers religions or if they were this and that. They had a class to give and they did, some were good some were bad.

This is why we don't win anymore. Take a good look at this shit right here. American education is a fucking joke. Look at it! Brazil is even laughing at us.

No, I was talking to one person that seems to not understand all the roles involved in the fine art of spreading knowledge.
America is fine, and have it's quote of crazies like everywhere in the world. It's not about win or lose. This is another part of some insecure americans who try to find a reason to not take responsibility. I guess because the high level of most american life style, they have the means, the equipment and the tech to go around creating fake stuff, crazy BS theories, questioning facts and so on... while in other countries like mine, we wake up without knowing what will happen, it's a constant struggle to go forward, to get better and it could be pretty hard sometimes. What does not kill you makes you strong?

Did you know that just the price of one aircraft carrier of yours could solve all our financial problems? Yes, you know why even with all our well thought of education plans it does not work? Because as always we did import that stupid blame the teacher mentality from the US. Since then we call university students "clients" , so if some client makes a complaint about some teacher, he gets substituted. Same in all education chain.

The results of that stupidity can be seen in the ranking of countries by education! Is that simple.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

On account of this thread was started by a lawyer, I am actually really curious if we have a legal expectation of privacy from our fellow citizens, and not just the from the state.

If not, why not?

[skankhunt42]

I don't know what kind of school you went, but that is not my recollection of mine. We did not accept professors wasting our precious and expensive time with BS and subjects that were not in our best interest. They did have an extensive curricular plan, with the courses and the subjects, I never knew or asked about my teachers religions or if they were this and that. They had a class to give and they did, some were good some were bad.

This is why we don't win anymore. Take a good look at this shit right here. American education is a fucking joke. Look at it! Brazil is even laughing at us.

A lot of generalizations here. American schools are not nearly as bad as the media, bubbles or people on here would allow you to believe. Unlike most of the nations that "test" higher than the United States, we test everyone. Everyone. I work in a public school. We take EVERYONE.

Part of the reason American culture despite it's problems keeps itself a top the worlds stage, is culture, creativity, liberty, and inclusive public schools.

We definitely need to reform education here in America, but to act like as a culture we are not superior is ridiculous. There is a reason we have an immigration problem here in America. There is a demand to come here.

Not everyone's college experience is what you see or hear from the media.

[Paulo]

I don't know what kind of school you went, but that is not my recollection of mine. We did not accept professors wasting our precious and expensive time with BS and subjects that were not in our best interest. They did have an extensive curricular plan, with the courses and the subjects, I never knew or asked about my teachers religions or if they were this and that. They had a class to give and they did, some were good some were bad.

This is why we don't win anymore. Take a good look at this shit right here. American education is a fucking joke. Look at it! Brazil is even laughing at us.

A lot of generalizations here. American schools are not nearly as bad as the media, bubbles or people on here would allow you to believe. Unlike most of the nations that "test" higher than the United States, we test everyone. Everyone. I work in a public school. We take EVERYONE.

Part of the reason American culture despite it's problems keeps itself a top the worlds stage, is culture, creativity, liberty, and inclusive public schools.

We definitely need to reform education here in America, but to act like as a culture we are not superior is ridiculous. There is a reason we have an immigration problem here in America. There is a demand to come here.

Not everyone's college experience is what you see or hear from the media.

You speak wise words, and I totally agree with you in almost everything.

The part I disagree is : Your culture is not "superior" , there is not such a thing unless you believe that there is "superior people".

The reason you have an immigration problem is one and one only : Money!!!!!! You pay $5.00 / hour. Here in Brasil we pay $1,00 / hour ($240, 00 / month)??? and we pay an Iphone $1.500. $8 for a Big Mac!

I am talking from country that sends massive amounts of immigrants to the US, legals and illegals. No one cares about culture, or liberty, or whatever. They care about making money to improve their lives. That's all. Start paying $250,00 a month and your immigration problem will be solved.

[skankhunt42]

This is why we don't win anymore. Take a good look at this shit right here. American education is a fucking joke. Look at it! Brazil is even laughing at us.

A lot of generalizations here. American schools are not nearly as bad as the media, bubbles or people on here would allow you to believe. Unlike most of the nations that "test" higher than the United States, we test everyone. Everyone. I work in a public school. We take EVERYONE.

Part of the reason American culture despite it's problems keeps itself a top the worlds stage, is culture, creativity, liberty, and inclusive public schools.

We definitely need to reform education here in America, but to act like as a culture we are not superior is ridiculous. There is a reason we have an immigration problem here in America. There is a demand to come here.

Not everyone's college experience is what you see or hear from the media.

You speak wise words, and I totally agree with you in almost everything.

The part I disagree is : Your culture is not "superior" , there is not such a thing unless you believe that there is "superior people".

The reason you have an immigration problem is one and one only : Money!!!!!! You pay $5.00 / hour. Here in Brasil we pay $1,00 / hour ($240, 00 / month)??? and we pay an Iphone $1.500. $8 for a Big Mac!

I am talking from country that sends massive amounts of immigrants to the US, legals and illegals. No one cares about culture, or liberty, or whatever. They care about making money to improve their lives. That's all. Start paying $250,00 a month and your immigration problem will be solved.

See I think our culture right now is "superior". I don't mean that in an insulting way. I should have clarified. I meant it in a way that if this was like a game we have the high score. We do have the best economy. We are the top dog everyone is gunning for. I'm not stating that we are superior like genetically or any of that bullshit. Just stating that we are doing really well juxtaposed to other nations. Sorry for the confusion, I can see how it would come across as hate speechy. I also agree with your economic points of emphasis.