Okeefenokee wrote:stfu fakenews. We already know they applied for a FISA warrant on Trump. That's not debatable. We know they got warrants for his associates. That's not debatable.
Everyone found out, and ever since they've been trying to shield their boss.
Think about this.
1. Members of congress give FBI fake dossier they paid foreigners to create.
2. FBI uses dossier as evidence to seek warrants and open investigation into Americans for possible ties to foreign governments seeking to subvert American democracy, ...and no one bothers to let the president know.
Sure fakenews. That sound plausible. I bet he was just as shocked as the rest of us to find out it when it hit the headlines.
No, Okeefenokee, some points are there incorrect.
1. Steele only was given the job starting JUNE 2016 after it became public that the DNC had been hacked and he was the one that sent it to the FBI, not some members of congress. If you are talking about McCain delivering the dossier to Comey, that happened in December 2016. The FBI investigation had been going on for a half year then. And it should be evident to everybody (but isn't) that it was part of a counterespionage investigation.
Just as Comey later said in the Congress hearings:
“I’ve been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election,” Comey said in testimony before the House Intelligence Committee. “That includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.”
2. Here you splendidly forget Carter Page, who surfaced to the FBI in a totally different counter-intel operation with Russians intel guys talking about this odd asset of theirs in 2013. Well before any Trump candidacy. Now many were surprised (as I was) when a guy like Carter Page was said to be in the Trump foreign policy team, as usually a Pro-Russian person vehemently supporting the Kremlin is somewhat rare if not non-existent in the Republican circles. I myself assumed back then that Trump wanted to have people with good ties to Kremlin, but that went a little bit further.
The FBI obtained a secret court order last summer to monitor the communications of an adviser to presidential candidate Donald Trump, part of an investigation into possible links between Russia and the campaign, law enforcement and other U.S. officials said.
The FBI and the Justice Department obtained the warrant targeting Carter Page’s communications after convincing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge that there was probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power, in this case Russia, according to the officials.
Hence, the fact that Carter Page was an old friend to the counter-espionage team in the FBI well before any dossier.
And what's so goddam fake about it? A lot of things has been proven true. If you argue that the FBI has "used" the dossier, well, perhaps they do have the means to corroborate the stories. Surely would be on thin ice if they would have nothing else but a 35 page memo done by a foreigner. Sure, the golden showers is one thing dubious, but that's not even important. The Basic thing in the dossier was that Trump team is in cahoots with the Russians. Now we have learnt it multiple times from other sources, the Trump Jr. "I love it" emails and Felix Sater emails, all the various meetings, the push for Trump Tower in Moscow during the election, which just prove that the dossier's Basic message, that Russia has been working on Trump for a long time has been reinforced. The Golden shower thing is unimportant.
Yeah, we'll wait for that.
