Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

[TheReal_ND]

If it was sarin it was trace amounts according to initial accounts I posted earlier. I believe the professor came to the same conclusion as others that it was most likely chlorine with trace amounts of sarin which makes sense because it does have a shelf life as you say and the only people that didn't turn it in were the rebels.


Jesus Christ boomers FUCKING DIE

[TheReal_ND]

http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/ar ... substances

I could have swore this report used to say it was chlorine with sarin.

[Ph64]

If it was sarin it was trace amounts according to initial accounts I posted earlier. I believe the professor came to the same conclusion as others that it was most likely chlorine with trace amounts of sarin which makes sense because it does have a shelf life as you say and the only people that didn't turn it in were the rebels.


Jesus Christ boomers FUCKING DIE

Wait... Not "because Russia"??

[Smitty-48]

Iran links Assad to ISIS? lolwhut? Pretty sure Iran and Hezbollah are sworn enemies of the Wahhab, how do you not get that memo?

Lindsay McCain and John Graham will literally say anything to get a foreign intervention going, it's like they get paid based on how many quamires they can incite.

[de officiis]

Iran links Assad to ISIS? lolwhut? Pretty sure Iran and Hezbollah are sworn enemies of the Wahhab, how do you not get that memo?

Lindsay McCain and John Graham will literally say anything to get a foreign intervention going, it's like they get paid based on how many quamires they can incite.

Ain't that the truth. Sickening.

[Smitty-48]

McCain is just dumb, literally a fuckin' moron and always has been, McCain believes the stupid shit that he says, but Graham is not dumb, Graham is actually pretty sharp, so with Graham it's just pure sycophancy to entrenched interest, Graham is the brains behind the operation, McCain is the usefull idiot.

[BjornP]

Iran links Assad to ISIS? lolwhut? Pretty sure Iran and Hezbollah are sworn enemies of the Wahhab, how do you not get that memo?

Lindsay McCain and John Graham will literally say anything to get a foreign intervention going, it's like they get paid based on how many quamires they can incite.

The original McCain quote:

https://medium.com/@SenatorJohnMcCain/w ... 79fbbb97be

Our strategy cannot presume to separate the fight against ISIL from the Syrian people’s fight against the Assad regime. They are inextricably connected. Assad is a puppet of Iran, and as long as he continues to slaughter his own people, it will be impossible to destroy the radical terrorist groups that occupy Syria and the region, and the war will never end. Nor will the threat posed by these groups to our nation.

So, I think he's going more in the direction of a: "We can't do anything about all these terrorists as long as Assad's in charge" than a causal link between Assad and ISIS. Dunno what one would call that sort of logic. As you say, Syria does get troops and aid from what the US and most Western countries consider a terrorist organization, Hezbollah, but their main base of operations is in Lebanon. He hasn't endorsed bombing Lebanon these last couple of years, has he? And even then, afaik it's also not as if Hezbollah has bombed alot of Western or American targets lately.

[adwinistrator]

The original McCain quote:

https://medium.com/@SenatorJohnMcCain/w ... 79fbbb97be

Our strategy cannot presume to separate the fight against ISIL from the Syrian people’s fight against the Assad regime. They are inextricably connected. Assad is a puppet of Iran, and as long as he continues to slaughter his own people, it will be impossible to destroy the radical terrorist groups that occupy Syria and the region, and the war will never end. Nor will the threat posed by these groups to our nation.

So, I think he's going more in the direction of a: "We can't do anything about all these terrorists as long as Assad's in charge" than a causal link between Assad and ISIS. Dunno what one would call that sort of logic. As you say, Syria does get troops and aid from what the US and most Western countries consider a terrorist organization, Hezbollah, but their main base of operations is in Lebanon. He hasn't endorsed bombing Lebanon these last couple of years, has he? And even then, afaik it's also not as if Hezbollah has bombed alot of Western or American targets lately.

I mean, this is one of the basic problems of intervention in Syria.

Realities:

• Assad is fighting against ISIS.
• Russia and Iran back Assad.
• Some rebels support ISIS.

Dilemmas:

• We want to remove Assad from power, but not allow ISIS to fill vacuum.
• We want to remove Assad from power, but want to avoid military conflict with Russia.
• We want to defeat ISIS in Syria, but not support Assad indirectly.
• We want to support Syrian rebels, but not the ones that support ISIS/Islamism.
• We want to remove Assad from power without allowing a genocide of the Alawites.

No easy choices...

[Martin Hash]

I'm still stuck on "We want to remove Assad from power"? A leader of a sovereign nation? Us? We're the World's policeman? We know best? We can tell the future?

[Speaker to Animals]

Assad is fighting the Islamists. The people committing the genocide are the Islamists. If you topple Assad, the Islamists win, and the remaining Christians are exterminated in Syria.

You people better understand what you are supporting ahead of time. That genocide will be on you otherwise.