2018 Mid-Term Elections

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Well if a group of people financed or provided any support for a terror attack that killed a lot of other people (targeted a day care center, really), and the state failed to make a case against them, then that would be a failure.

I mean.. I am already long over the illusion of having any justice in this country. If somebody did that to my child, I am going Punisher on them if the state doesn't do anything.

A failure to make a case, but not a failure to protect the presumption of innocence.

Arrows will often pass the guilty by to slay the innocent. Take it up with God.

It's still a failure. I am not sure why you would object to that characterization. The state failing to prosecute a terrorist and murderer failed at its job. The presumption of innocence implies that we make the state's job very difficult, not excuse failure. If they failed at something that big, I would like to know why.

Maybe it is because the government is really in bed with white nationalists. Maybe it is because Elohim was working with the Illuminati.

Asking "why" the state couldn't make a case with the assumption that there is some sinister explanation is just begging the question, and leads one inexorably down the path of paranoid conspiracy.

The fact that the presumption of innocence will sometimes protect the guilty is baked into the cake of protecting civil liberties.

[Kath]

The parties aren't doing anything. The parties are just battlegrounds you have to fight over in order to then fight over control of the government. The primary and general elections are both fields of battle, not individuals. You are acting as if the parties are individual people. They are not. You allow people who oppose your interests to control both parties because you vote for stupid shit like "Migrant Caravan" instead of actually fighting for those interests.

Really, why should any politicians of any party take your ideas seriously when you do this?

Bullshit. Harry Reid led the charge to go nuclear on judges. The Republican senators called partisan bullshit, and rightly so. Did they change the bullshit when they got control? Of course not, they made it worse.

They pretend outrage, but are grateful to have someone to blame for the power grab, nothing more. No party in control has ever given back power the other team took for themselves. They expand it, while the team out of power cries bullshit. Do you think the democrats will change the nuclear option when they get control back? Dream on..... not a chance.

Rand Paul, my favorite Senator, cries foul at all the BS Republican bills, but then votes for them anyway. He talks a good game, and I like what he has to say, but, ultimately, he caves on bad legislation. If he had more support, some decent legislation might get through, but that's a dream.

Liars, cheats, thieves, self-serving asshats run the country. Fuck all of them. Truly.

A split government that does nothing but bitch at each other is the best option, at this point. This is one thing the voters get right. They have historically given each party very, very few years at total control. It's simply not good for anyone but those in power.

You can cry all you like that the Republicans are the dream-team and the Democrats need to die, but you are lying to yourself, just like you were when you loved the democrats 10 years ago.

[Kath]

In that time, I will continue to work to strengthen my local community.

That's where we are. In our town of 40~ish K people, we can keep an eye on our government. We attend city council meetings and write our mayor and the commissioners. They respond to our emails with non-boilerplate answers. It's quite refreshing.

I joke vote on the bullshit, but local is where it's at. I absolutely love my city; such a great place to live. This is the shit that matters. We kept a no-tell-motel from building at the entrance to our neighborhood due to my local neighborhood's involvement. That was a great meeting. The mayor asked how many were attending against the proposal and almost 100% of us raised our hands. It was standing room only, including outside the meeting room. We made a difference. That felt good.

BTW- a split government is what is best for the people The government provides no value to me, but the stock market loves a split government. We talked to our financial adviser today. I get to retire straight up at 65 if we stay on track, and even earlier if things improve. Keep the split government.

[nmoore63]

There exists no viable path to "weakening the institution of the federal government" without taking control of it first.

"Supporting alternative solutions" is virtue signaling.

Dan Carlin Fallacy is a huge waste of your time. It's time to put this thing to rest. It's been ten years, guys. I mean.. come on. LOL

The federal government is less effective every day.
Its going to spend the next 2 years doing nothing but yell at itself.
In that time, I will continue to work to strengthen my local community.

The conditions that caused the US to be have largely passed.

You love to virtue signal about whiteness and masculinity, but the reality is, there is no common bond between a white male in San Fransisco and a one in Ephrata, WA.

Stop pretending our two visions are reconcilable within the current frame work of United States Federal government.

Its a huge waste of time. Its time to put this thing to rest. I mean... come on. LOL

Kitchen sink argument.

You are not responding to the point at all. Just attacking me personally and being a douche.

The fact is, it is self-evident that you cannot change anything without control of the federal government. If your plan is just to wait for collapse, then good luck, I guess. I'd like to avert it if possible.

If you lived in 250 AD Londunum...

Is the answer to get involved in imperial politics?
International politics?
Praetorian politics?
Senatorial politics?

No.

The answer is to look to your own community. To try and thrive under benign neglect. To try and build infrastructure, both physical and interpersonal, that is difficult to pillage.

To reach this conclusion is not to reject the philosophy of Cato, nor to refuse to die for Trajan. But to understand that their reality is gone.

Whether a collapse actually happens or not is irrelevant. The democracy that we live under is the will of organized minorities. There are far too many in each group for one side to find permanence. There will be purges and counter purges for both. All who fight to wield that hammer will lose.

[clubgop]

SINCE ELECTION DAY: Democrats Pick Off Over a Dozen GOP House Seats and 2 Senate Seats… And They’re Going for More

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/1 ... -for-more/

Open Election Fraud...……….. no one is doing anything about it. Your vote doesn't matter to these people.
Without this, the GOP probably would have kept the House and a strong majority in the Senate. They are just going to keep going until they control the house and senate and force the government they want on you.

What are talking about? The article isnt even alleging fraud in most of these cases. If it wasnt for a Florida Senate race there wouldn't be this concern. These were local elections as much as they were national, this was a standard midterm.

[Speaker to Animals]

Uh huh.. FDLE just started a criminal investigation into widespread election fraud in Broward county.

Meanwhile, democrats continue to "find" boxes stuffed with votes for losing democratic candidates that turn close elections in several states.

This is no longer even a democracy. It's a low intensity war. Democrats are just too much of pussies to do anything but cheat, steal, and attack our wives and children.

You guys are pushing this to a breaking point.

[Fife]

Let's get us some of that "split government!" That'll show 'em! They won't know how to react to that at all!

[TheReal_ND]

FUCK OFF BILL HICKS. UR NOT FUNNY UR NOT SMART UR JUST A SMART ASS AND IF ANYONE IS A CULT LEADER ITS YOU YOU VAPID POT HEAD EOTH NOTHONG TO GET SO WORKED UP ABOUT

[pineapplemike]

i'm a registered member of the people who hate people party

[clubgop]

The parties aren't doing anything. The parties are just battlegrounds you have to fight over in order to then fight over control of the government. The primary and general elections are both fields of battle, not individuals. You are acting as if the parties are individual people. They are not. You allow people who oppose your interests to control both parties because you vote for stupid shit like "Migrant Caravan" instead of actually fighting for those interests.

Really, why should any politicians of any party take your ideas seriously when you do this?

Bullshit. Harry Reid led the charge to go nuclear on judges. The Republican senators called partisan bullshit, and rightly so. Did they change the bullshit when they got control? Of course not, they made it worse.

They pretend outrage, but are grateful to have someone to blame for the power grab, nothing more. No party in control has ever given back power the other team took for themselves. They expand it, while the team out of power cries bullshit. Do you think the democrats will change the nuclear option when they get control back? Dream on..... not a chance.

There it is! A full throated defense of the filibuster, one that if still in existence would have prevended Neil Gorsuch from sitting on the Supreme Court. Exactly as I said. 2018 Kath is now 2017 Kath until she insist she isn't but in truth, she still will be.