Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:12 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:57 am
Don't have to read down very far to find:
We therefore advocate a revolution against the industrial system. This revolution may or may not make use of violence; it may be sudden or it may be a relatively gradual process spanning a few decades. We can’t predict any of that. But we do outline in a very general way the measures that those who hate the industrial system should take in order to prepare the way for a revolution against that form of society. This is not to be a POLITICAL revolution. Its object will be to overthrow not governments but the economic and technological basis of the present society.
Sounds like it could be directly from an Antifa pamphlet about destroying systems.

Further down:
Oversocialization can lead to low self-esteem, a sense of powerlessness, defeatism, guilt, etc. One of the most important means by which our society socializes children is by making them feel ashamed of behavior or speech that is contrary to society’s expectations. If this is overdone, or if a particular child is especially susceptible to such feelings, he ends by feeling ashamed of HIMSELF.
This is exactly what anti-racist academics like DiAngelo and Kendi say about 'stereotype threat' and 'internalized racism.'

But, the very first sentence is:
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Another Antifa, radical-left talking point, presented without evidence. Nothing that follows in Ted's manifesto supports this proposition, but instead rambles on for pages about the psychology of leftists - never providing a single piece of empirical data that humans are worse off now than they were before the industrial revolution. Why? Because every single piece of objective data proves him wrong.

Kaczynski's entire manifesto is one long gripe trying to justify his own inability to succeed, blaming society for everything, like a progressive, BLM agitator.
Which I said back in around 11:20/11:30 today:

viewtopic.php?p=320783#p320783

His logic isn't really too far off he did a perfect example of why BLM and Antifa are successful, what I also said is that they are using this to destroy America, but to ignore what he said is foolish, read, learn and find a way to counter it.

Cripes, why does it take an Autistic to make the connections?

Seriously, you guys need to get off your own high horses and realize that what took you three pages to get to, I said earlier this AM...

but keep on reading, towards 40 and so and you'll see more meat for this gristmill...
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:15 am

Xenophon wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:11 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:57 am

Another Antifa, radical-left talking point, presented without evidence. Nothing that follows in Ted's manifesto supports this proposition, but instead rambles on for pages about the psychology of leftists - never providing a single piece of empirical data that humans are worse off now than they were before the industrial revolution. Why? Because every single piece of objective data proves him wrong.

Kaczynski's entire manifesto is one long gripe trying to justify his own inability to succeed, blaming society for everything, like a progressive, BLM agitator.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... us-unhappy
Young Americans today are experiencing levels of stress, anxiety, depression, and related conditions at rates higher than they were a generation ago. (And the rest of us aren't doing much better.)

According to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 1 in 10 Americans suffer from some form of depression, and people between the ages of 18 and 24 report the highest incidences.1,2 Forty million Americans over the age of 18 have an anxiety disorder, but again, as the recent report, "Stress in America," made clear, millennials are the hardest hit.3 More evidence: Suicide is the third-leading cause of death for young Americans between the ages of 10 and 24, claiming 4,600 lives per year. All of this, in a society that has more wealth than much of the rest of the world combined.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 091249.htm
Twenge, along with colleagues Gabrielle Martin at SDSU and W. Keith Campbell at the University of Georgia, crunched data from the Monitoring the Future (MtF) longitudinal study, a nationally representative survey of more than a million U.S. 8th-, 10th-, and 12th-graders. The survey asked students questions about how often they spent time on their phones, tablets and computers, as well as questions about their in-the-flesh social interactions and their overall happiness.

On average, they found that teens who spent more time in front of screen devices -- playing computer games, using social media, texting and video chatting -- were less happy than those who invested more time in non-screen activities like sports, reading newspapers and magazines, and face-to-face social interaction.
https://worldhappiness.report/ed/2019/t ... tal-media/

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Yep. Industrial society is great, man. Time to flip on the ol' Netflix and gorge. Carpe diem, am I right?
People report being sad. Super objective metric, bro.

Global reductions poverty and hunger, or increased access to clean water and medicine - none of that matters because people are anxious and depressed.

Thinking society is responsible for your anxiety and depression is some lefty, over pampered college student, nonsense.
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Xenophon » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:16 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:57 am
...every single piece of objective data proves him wrong.
https://hbr.org/2018/03/research-the-in ... seen-today
The Industrial Revolution, which brought together large-scale coal-based industries like mining, steel, pottery, and textiles, helped create the foundation of modern society and wealth. At the same time, the early industrial economies that formed in this era were also associated with brutal working and living conditions. Our research, recently accepted by the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, shows that areas where coal was king may still be feeling the effects.
Our study, an interdisciplinary collaboration between psychologists, historians, and economic geographers, examined whether people in former industrial regions in the U.K. and the U.S. demonstrated more markers of “psychological adversity” (i.e., higher neuroticism, lower conscientiousness, lower aspects of extraversion, lower life satisfaction, and lower life expectancy) than people in other regions. To reach back to the Industrial Revolution, we had to examine different sources of unique historical data on regional industry structure — one source, for example, was baptism records from 1813-1820 that stated the occupation of the father. We were able to determine the share of employment in large-scale coal-based industries, such as coal mining, and in steam-powered manufacturing industries that used coal as fuel, such as pottery, textile production, and metal manufacturing. This was our measure for the historical concentration of large-scale, coal-powered industries in a region.

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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:17 am

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:12 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:57 am
Don't have to read down very far to find:
We therefore advocate a revolution against the industrial system. This revolution may or may not make use of violence; it may be sudden or it may be a relatively gradual process spanning a few decades. We can’t predict any of that. But we do outline in a very general way the measures that those who hate the industrial system should take in order to prepare the way for a revolution against that form of society. This is not to be a POLITICAL revolution. Its object will be to overthrow not governments but the economic and technological basis of the present society.
Sounds like it could be directly from an Antifa pamphlet about destroying systems.

Further down:
Oversocialization can lead to low self-esteem, a sense of powerlessness, defeatism, guilt, etc. One of the most important means by which our society socializes children is by making them feel ashamed of behavior or speech that is contrary to society’s expectations. If this is overdone, or if a particular child is especially susceptible to such feelings, he ends by feeling ashamed of HIMSELF.
This is exactly what anti-racist academics like DiAngelo and Kendi say about 'stereotype threat' and 'internalized racism.'

But, the very first sentence is:
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Another Antifa, radical-left talking point, presented without evidence. Nothing that follows in Ted's manifesto supports this proposition, but instead rambles on for pages about the psychology of leftists - never providing a single piece of empirical data that humans are worse off now than they were before the industrial revolution. Why? Because every single piece of objective data proves him wrong.

Kaczynski's entire manifesto is one long gripe trying to justify his own inability to succeed, blaming society for everything, like a progressive, BLM agitator.
Which I said back in around 11:20/11:30 today:

viewtopic.php?p=320783#p320783

His logic isn't really too far off he did a perfect example of why BLM and Antifa are successful, what I also said is that they are using this to destroy America, but to ignore what he said is foolish, read, learn and find a way to counter it.

Cripes, why does it take an Autistic to make the connections?

Seriously, you guys need to get off your own high horses and realize that what took you three pages to get to, I said earlier this AM...

but keep on reading, towards 40 and so and you'll see more meat for this gristmill...
Good, we agree Kaczynski is wrong for all the same reasons BLM and Antifa are wrong.

The only difference is that Kaczynski was also insane.
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:19 am

Xenophon wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:16 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:57 am
...every single piece of objective data proves him wrong.
https://hbr.org/2018/03/research-the-in ... seen-today
The Industrial Revolution, which brought together large-scale coal-based industries like mining, steel, pottery, and textiles, helped create the foundation of modern society and wealth. At the same time, the early industrial economies that formed in this era were also associated with brutal working and living conditions. Our research, recently accepted by the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, shows that areas where coal was king may still be feeling the effects.
Our study, an interdisciplinary collaboration between psychologists, historians, and economic geographers, examined whether people in former industrial regions in the U.K. and the U.S. demonstrated more markers of “psychological adversity” (i.e., higher neuroticism, lower conscientiousness, lower aspects of extraversion, lower life satisfaction, and lower life expectancy) than people in other regions. To reach back to the Industrial Revolution, we had to examine different sources of unique historical data on regional industry structure — one source, for example, was baptism records from 1813-1820 that stated the occupation of the father. We were able to determine the share of employment in large-scale coal-based industries, such as coal mining, and in steam-powered manufacturing industries that used coal as fuel, such as pottery, textile production, and metal manufacturing. This was our measure for the historical concentration of large-scale, coal-powered industries in a region.
Its the system MAAAAAAN, it is keeping us down and making us depressed.

Pfft.
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:20 am

People who blame society for their depression and personal failures are losers. Sad.
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Xenophon » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:22 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:15 am

Thinking society is responsible for your anxiety and depression is some lefty, over pampered college student, nonsense.
https://blog.samhsa.gov/2019/01/24/suic ... an-society
Government resources alone, however, will not address America’s epidemic of suicide. Changes in our society contribute to the isolation and desperation that too many endure. The immersion of Americans from an early age into the cyber universe—for example, online activities and social media with nonstop access in the form of cell phone use—can contribute to the increasing loss of social connectedness, support from family and friends, and community at large in favor of a 24/7 barrage of information and communication (some wanted and some not). Therefore, social media can provide an adverse platform for unfortunate interactions with others, especially for our young people.6 The anonymity conveyed by social media permits a person to communicate messages with no thought to the harm it may do to another emotionally.

This medium decreases personal interaction, impedes learning of acceptable social norms, and inflicts outright harm on some, such as young people subjected to cyber-bullying. In recent surveys, 34 percent of youth reported being cyberbullied in their lifetime, and bullying has been cited as a contributing factor in cases of retaliation.7 Additionally, new research describes cell phone addiction and reports that college students spend up to 9 hours daily on their cell phones.8 This can have major consequences for our youth, including academic failure. Social media obsession may impair learning activities in school and infringe on the ability of people to attain career goals. It is not a leap of logic to posit that such failures contribute to mental illness and the development of substance use disorders. It is also possible that those most vulnerable to such addiction have pre-existing mental illness that might be detected were regular screening to occur. Unfortunately, preoccupation with social media has become a new “norm” in our society, with a clear detrimental effect for many.
Freaking pansies. Just get a job and buy stuff. Idiots.

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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:23 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:17 am
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:12 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:57 am
Don't have to read down very far to find:



Sounds like it could be directly from an Antifa pamphlet about destroying systems.

Further down:



This is exactly what anti-racist academics like DiAngelo and Kendi say about 'stereotype threat' and 'internalized racism.'

But, the very first sentence is:



Another Antifa, radical-left talking point, presented without evidence. Nothing that follows in Ted's manifesto supports this proposition, but instead rambles on for pages about the psychology of leftists - never providing a single piece of empirical data that humans are worse off now than they were before the industrial revolution. Why? Because every single piece of objective data proves him wrong.

Kaczynski's entire manifesto is one long gripe trying to justify his own inability to succeed, blaming society for everything, like a progressive, BLM agitator.
Which I said back in around 11:20/11:30 today:

viewtopic.php?p=320783#p320783

His logic isn't really too far off he did a perfect example of why BLM and Antifa are successful, what I also said is that they are using this to destroy America, but to ignore what he said is foolish, read, learn and find a way to counter it.

Cripes, why does it take an Autistic to make the connections?

Seriously, you guys need to get off your own high horses and realize that what took you three pages to get to, I said earlier this AM...

but keep on reading, towards 40 and so and you'll see more meat for this gristmill...
Good, we agree Kaczynski is wrong for all the same reasons BLM and Antifa are wrong.

The only difference is that Kaczynski was also insane.
I am saying that use his writings as a tool... not as an answer.
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:24 am

Xenophon wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:22 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:15 am

Thinking society is responsible for your anxiety and depression is some lefty, over pampered college student, nonsense.
https://blog.samhsa.gov/2019/01/24/suic ... an-society
Government resources alone, however, will not address America’s epidemic of suicide. Changes in our society contribute to the isolation and desperation that too many endure. The immersion of Americans from an early age into the cyber universe—for example, online activities and social media with nonstop access in the form of cell phone use—can contribute to the increasing loss of social connectedness, support from family and friends, and community at large in favor of a 24/7 barrage of information and communication (some wanted and some not). Therefore, social media can provide an adverse platform for unfortunate interactions with others, especially for our young people.6 The anonymity conveyed by social media permits a person to communicate messages with no thought to the harm it may do to another emotionally.

This medium decreases personal interaction, impedes learning of acceptable social norms, and inflicts outright harm on some, such as young people subjected to cyber-bullying. In recent surveys, 34 percent of youth reported being cyberbullied in their lifetime, and bullying has been cited as a contributing factor in cases of retaliation.7 Additionally, new research describes cell phone addiction and reports that college students spend up to 9 hours daily on their cell phones.8 This can have major consequences for our youth, including academic failure. Social media obsession may impair learning activities in school and infringe on the ability of people to attain career goals. It is not a leap of logic to posit that such failures contribute to mental illness and the development of substance use disorders. It is also possible that those most vulnerable to such addiction have pre-existing mental illness that might be detected were regular screening to occur. Unfortunately, preoccupation with social media has become a new “norm” in our society, with a clear detrimental effect for many.
Freaking pansies. Just get a job and buy stuff. Idiots.
A blog about cyber-bullying is your evidence for why the industrial revolution was bad?

Lol
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:26 am

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:23 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:17 am
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:12 am


Which I said back in around 11:20/11:30 today:

viewtopic.php?p=320783#p320783

His logic isn't really too far off he did a perfect example of why BLM and Antifa are successful, what I also said is that they are using this to destroy America, but to ignore what he said is foolish, read, learn and find a way to counter it.

Cripes, why does it take an Autistic to make the connections?

Seriously, you guys need to get off your own high horses and realize that what took you three pages to get to, I said earlier this AM...

but keep on reading, towards 40 and so and you'll see more meat for this gristmill...
Good, we agree Kaczynski is wrong for all the same reasons BLM and Antifa are wrong.

The only difference is that Kaczynski was also insane.
I am saying that use his writings as a tool... not as an answer.
Tool for what? Complaining about how personal failure is industrial capitalism's fault?
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen