Europe, Boring Until it's Not

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:54 am

Mein Kampf is still available today but no Holocaust, which ended after Hitler quit shitting.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:04 pm

Anti-semitism neither started nor ended with Hitler but Mein Kampfe helped to legitimise the persecution of Jews.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:17 pm

Did I mention Mein Kampf is STILL available today? Google it: easy to find.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Hastur » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:42 pm

The Arabic version of Mein Kampf is a bestseller all across the Middle East. It sells a lot in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh as well. Available in paperback everywhere.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:48 pm

I find it very interesting that the would-be censors aren't calling to burn books that are literally about exterminating men, cutting off penises, or "ending whiteness".

It seems as though they are not really against "inciting hatred and violence" but instead oppose only inciting hatred and violence against demographics they do not approve of as targets for hate and violence.

Most of the hate today is coming from the left. The very people calling for censorship of everybody else for "hate" are the primary promulgators of hate and violence in our societies today.

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by BjornP » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:17 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:44 am
BjornP wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:18 am


So anything written or spoken that can radicalize someone needs to be outlawed? The Old Testament? The Quran? Historical documentation of the Nazi war crimes, Mein Kampf, The Worker’s Manifesto?

Difficult to argue that Mein Kampf didn't lead to the persecution of the Jews and ultimately the holocaust.
Are you really that ignorant?

You think Hitler and the Nazis invented the story of Jews being behind Germany's ills, that anti-semitism in Germany specifically, and Europe in particular arose because of the Nazis? Never heard of the pogroms of Russia? The historical provenance of and behind the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"? You think the Ukrainian Nazi collaborators who assisted in the Nazi murder of Jews all wanted to murder Jews because they read "Mein Kampf"?

And just to preemptively correct you, you also think the eugenics program of "euthanasia" of Germany's mentally ill, long-term unemployed, epiliptics and other undesirables was something entirely invented in Nazi Germany, too? Only the final act of actively murdering people was unique to how the shining new "science" of eugenics was implemented across Europe. In Scandinavia we forcefully sterilized thousands of "undesirable" women by "wrong" ethnicity, social standing or illness, at least five years before Mein Kampf was written (1920 in Denmark).

Is this why you twits have these laws? That none of you have recieved any history lessons beyond dubious internet videos with titles like"Top Ten things to know about the History of (X)"? That "even" your legislators think they're justified in creating the laws you have because they say that "history teaches us, that X"? Where X is whatever halfwitted, half-heard, half-understood, historical factoid some low-info politician thinks justifies his legislation?
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by BjornP » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:30 pm

Hastur wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:42 pm
The Arabic version of Mein Kampf is a bestseller all across the Middle East. It sells a lot in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh as well. Available in paperback everywhere.
I remember finding Mein Kampf (in translated form) at my local library as a kid. Was in the "Biography" section. Borrowed it at age 13 to find out of if there was something particularly frightening, mezmering or a feeling of genuine "evil" from the book. There was none of those three things in or about it, though. Still available at all Danish libraries to this day.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:32 pm

BjornP wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:17 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:44 am
BjornP wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:18 am


So anything written or spoken that can radicalize someone needs to be outlawed? The Old Testament? The Quran? Historical documentation of the Nazi war crimes, Mein Kampf, The Worker’s Manifesto?

Difficult to argue that Mein Kampf didn't lead to the persecution of the Jews and ultimately the holocaust.
Are you really that ignorant?

You think Hitler and the Nazis invented the story of Jews being behind Germany's ills, that anti-semitism in Germany specifically, and Europe in particular arose because of the Nazis? Never heard of the pogroms of Russia? The historical provenance of and behind the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"? You think the Ukrainian Nazi collaborators who assisted in the Nazi murder of Jews all wanted to murder Jews because they read "Mein Kampf"?

And just to preemptively correct you, you also think the eugenics program of "euthanasia" of Germany's mentally ill, long-term unemployed, epiliptics and other undesirables was something entirely invented in Nazi Germany, too? Only the final act of actively murdering people was unique to how the shining new "science" of eugenics was implemented across Europe. In Scandinavia we forcefully sterilized thousands of "undesirable" women by "wrong" ethnicity, social standing or illness, at least five years before Mein Kampf was written (1920 in Denmark).

Is this why you twits have these laws? That none of you have recieved any history lessons beyond dubious internet videos with titles like"Top Ten things to know about the History of (X)"? That "even" your legislators think they're justified in creating the laws you have because they say that "history teaches us, that X"? Where X is whatever halfwitted, half-heard, half-understood, historical factoid some low-info politician thinks justifies his legislation?
Perhaps you missed this post?
Anti-semitism neither started nor ended with Hitler but Mein Kampfe helped to legitimise the persecution of Jews.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by heydaralon » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:48 pm

PartyOf5 wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:29 am
Monte needs to be banned from this forum. Seriously.

Just days ago in another thread he was spreading anti-gay conspiracy theories about my Asian gay cruise line business. I fear he may influence others on the forum with mental illness, like dairylon, into taking violent action against gay Asians who enjoy cruises. He needs to be silenced before his hateful words result in someone getting physically injured.

So for the sake of everyone's safety, I'm asking Martin to ban Monte's account. It's for the good of not just the forum, but humanity.
Dude you showed up at my house at 2am crying, high on meth, and with a huge rubber fist in your hand. I am a very close friend to you, but there are boundaries dude. I'm not going on some gay Asian cruise with you, though I'm flattered you asked me and already bought the tickets.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by heydaralon » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:52 pm

BjornP wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:17 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:44 am
BjornP wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:18 am


So anything written or spoken that can radicalize someone needs to be outlawed? The Old Testament? The Quran? Historical documentation of the Nazi war crimes, Mein Kampf, The Worker’s Manifesto?

Difficult to argue that Mein Kampf didn't lead to the persecution of the Jews and ultimately the holocaust.
Are you really that ignorant?

You think Hitler and the Nazis invented the story of Jews being behind Germany's ills, that anti-semitism in Germany specifically, and Europe in particular arose because of the Nazis? Never heard of the pogroms of Russia? The historical provenance of and behind the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"? You think the Ukrainian Nazi collaborators who assisted in the Nazi murder of Jews all wanted to murder Jews because they read "Mein Kampf"?

And just to preemptively correct you, you also think the eugenics program of "euthanasia" of Germany's mentally ill, long-term unemployed, epiliptics and other undesirables was something entirely invented in Nazi Germany, too? Only the final act of actively murdering people was unique to how the shining new "science" of eugenics was implemented across Europe. In Scandinavia we forcefully sterilized thousands of "undesirable" women by "wrong" ethnicity, social standing or illness, at least five years before Mein Kampf was written (1920 in Denmark).

Is this why you twits have these laws? That none of you have recieved any history lessons beyond dubious internet videos with titles like"Top Ten things to know about the History of (X)"? That "even" your legislators think they're justified in creating the laws you have because they say that "history teaches us, that X"? Where X is whatever halfwitted, half-heard, half-understood, historical factoid some low-info politician thinks justifies his legislation?
Look at this freedom hating nanny stater Dane trying to pull rank.

You hate Freedom dude. Your gov't takes 75% of your income in taxes. Your country doesn't even have a culture. You got schoener from the Germans and bicycles from Italy. Flight Attendents are not Danish but borrowed from Finland.
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