THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by Fife » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:37 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:He's baiting them. This Russia thing is bogus. He knows he did nothing wrong. The longer this goes on the crazier his enemies look.
There is a significant chance this is some high-level Bannon trolling.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:55 pm

Fife wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:He's baiting them. This Russia thing is bogus. He knows he did nothing wrong. The longer this goes on the crazier his enemies look.
There is a significant chance this is some high-level Bannon trolling.

Definitely a non-zero probability..

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Fife » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:56 pm

Wait, WTF is going on here?


Anthony Scaramucci deletes tweets that could be ‘distraction’ for White House

“Full transparency: I'm deleting old tweets,” Scaramucci tweeted. “Past views evolved & shouldn't be a distraction. I serve @POTUS agenda & that's all that matters.”

"That's all that matters" ???

FFS

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Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:00 pm

Oh he's pissing off people on twitter? Maybe I like him now.

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Post by Viktorthepirate » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:28 pm

Fife wrote:Wait, WTF is going on here?


Anthony Scaramucci deletes tweets that could be ‘distraction’ for White House

“Full transparency: I'm deleting old tweets,” Scaramucci tweeted. “Past views evolved & shouldn't be a distraction. I serve @POTUS agenda & that's all that matters.”

"That's all that matters" ???

FFS
Uhhh yea....

He's being hired as a representative, wouldn't the views of who is representing be what is relevant?

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by pineapplemike » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:44 am

Fife wrote:Yes.

We had some discussion on the issue before the election. Some whacko was predicting that Billary's first act in office would be to pardon herself, Huma, and Chelsea.
I know anything we discussed pre-election was on the DCF so that thread is likely lost, but is there anywhere else this issue has been discussed? Is there any precedent for a president pardoning himself? Why wouldn't Nixon have given himself a full pardon for any crimes he may or may not have committed, and continued along with his day? I glanced at the relevant constitutional clause yesterday and it mentioned full presidential power to pardon except in cases of impeachment. I know that is very specific language but to me it would imply that in cases where the president is on trial his powers do not apply to himself, what other cases would the president need to pardon himself besides impeachment? Based on my 5 minutes of e-research I would think he doesn't have that power but I'm willing to be proven wrong, y'all lawyery types are more informed on the matter than I am

Personally I do not want the executive to be able to pardon him or herself, they're powerful enough already, being able to pardon themselves brings a whole new meaning to that phrase if the president does it it's not illegal. New to me atleast

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Post by Fife » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:56 am

It's never been attempted before. With Nixon, the fix was in, given that he had some control of how his resignation would spool out.

There was a good deal of commentary on the topic when it looked like Billary had the election in the bag.
http://lawnewz.com/opinion/if-hillary-i ... -helpless/
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/ ... lf_pardon/

The Vox types are taking the bait from the WH now, it seems. Here's a link with some links: https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/270797/

Drafting oversight, or intentionally granted to the Exec?

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Post by pineapplemike » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:21 am

Interesting, I feel more informed on the issue now, thanks. Still seems a little murky but obviously impeachment would be the full stop answer to the pardoning question. I would hope Republicans have the stones to impeach if something devious does indeed come out of this Russian fiasco.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:53 pm

pineapplemike wrote:Interesting, I feel more informed on the issue now, thanks. Still seems a little murky but obviously impeachment would be the full stop answer to the pardoning question. I would hope Republicans have the stones to impeach if something devious does indeed come out of this Russian fiasco.
The partisan divide is such, that no amount of outrageous behavior would make them sack their own, other than directly going against the party.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:22 pm

The partisan divide is such, that no lack of evidence of criminality is too little to realize they're a bunch of raving loons.
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