The Opioid Crisis

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:41 pm

Most opioids are manufactured by smaller pharma companies. The big money is in other areas.

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Post by heydaralon » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:20 pm

clubgop wrote:
heydaralon wrote:
de officiis wrote:Potentially, at least as to civil liability ... see Dram Shop Acts
Im not for selling intoxicants like alcohol to minors, and I dont think bars should serve people who are falling over drunk, but those laws seem rife for abuse by the govt.
Oh they are, but defense lawyers make a mint on defending professional licenses. It's just amazing to me the stellar, almost untouchable reputation doctors as whole receive. Just about everybody here up and down the thread want to give doctors every bit of the doubt.
You would know these numbers far better than I would, but I read somewhere that a doctor has something like a 77% chance of being sued for malpractice during their career. That is insane. I've heard anesthesiologists have to pay hundreds of thousands in malpractice insurance each year. In some cases, over one mil I believe. Around Orlando, we have John Morgan and a swarm of personal injury lawyers drumming up any and all chances to demonize doctors and hospital staff over malpractice. It is a thriving industry. He has now taken the cause of medical marijuana and has started slamming opiods left and right. Its just weird. I'm not saying the doctor is always in the right, but it is quite sickening to me how easy it is to launch a lawsuit against a medical professional. On some level, I do feel bad for the doctors, as they are practicing in a chum filled legal sharktank. It might be different where you live, Club. I am not claiming to be an expert on anything medical or legal, just my personal observation.
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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by Penner » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:32 pm

Here is one of those 1990s pharma videos that they used to sell drugs like Oxycotton:

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

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Post by heydaralon » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:33 pm

Penner wrote:
Not really a John Oliver fan. I have found many people my age will just get all their info from him or Trevor Noah and it makes them quite insufferable. Vice is really bad about this too. People watch a Vice youtube documentary and all of a sudden they are experts on Nigeria or whatever.
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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by GloryofGreece » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:39 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Penner wrote:
Not really a John Oliver fan. I have found many people my age will just get all their info from him or Trevor Noah and it makes them quite insufferable. Vice is really bad about this too. People watch a Vice youtube documentary and all of a sudden they are experts on Nigeria or whatever.
Its not really an HBO issue. The same is true for most people not just your age. People hear what they want to hear.
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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by clubgop » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:45 pm

Hastur wrote:
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Hastur wrote: Not me. I think they are the key. Problem is most doctors are bought and paid for by big pharma.

The biggest problem is the media. The amount of advertising money they get from pharma is staggering. You will never hear a bad word about them on MSM.
That's all moot here, no one is advertising opioids, don't need to and no direct incentive. Big Pharma ain't a problem here.
Opioids don’t need advertising. Are you dense or something? The same companies that make out like bandits selling opioids are financing a lot of of MSM by advertising other drugs. Connect the dots.
Not so much, the big manufactures have moved on from opioids there really isn't much money in it. No patents, just the generic manufactures.

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by clubgop » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:46 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Most opioids are manufactured by smaller pharma companies. The big money is in other areas.
Here's a man who knows.

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by heydaralon » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:46 pm

GloryofGreece wrote:
heydaralon wrote:
Penner wrote:
Not really a John Oliver fan. I have found many people my age will just get all their info from him or Trevor Noah and it makes them quite insufferable. Vice is really bad about this too. People watch a Vice youtube documentary and all of a sudden they are experts on Nigeria or whatever.
Its not really an HBO issue. The same is true for most people not just your age. People hear what they want to hear.
Agreed. HBO has made some good documentaries in the past. And Vice used to be pretty good before they were broadcast on HBO. Now their show is like: Look there is a Christian school that is pro life and teaches creationism. This is unbelievable! Let's send some Brooklyn hipster out to interview them, and pretend like we are being balanced. That kind of shit is not newsworthy, and it makes me sad that they have almost taken up the 24 hour news cycle model, covering banal bullshit.
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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by clubgop » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:48 pm

Penner wrote:Here is one of those 1990s pharma videos that they used to sell drugs like Oxycotton:

Very good, 1998 was almost 20 years ago. How long does a pharmacy patent last? Not 2 decades, dumbass.