CS 317 Shades of Grey

[apeman]

What was the last good Common Sense show? Its been well over a year at least. Dan has lost it. It makes me pretty sad. He's become a total waste. HH is barely salvageable at this point.

A rare non-saracastic daralong post! must cherish.

Poking the bear, or even as far back as when he proposed we divide Iraq into 3 countries along contemporary front lines.

[StCapps]

What was the last good Common Sense show? Its been well over a year at least. Dan has lost it. It makes me pretty sad. He's become a total waste. HH is barely salvageable at this point.

A rare non-saracastic daralong post! must cherish.

Poking the bear, or even as far back as when he proposed we divide Iraq into 3 countries along contemporary front lines.

Yeah Poking The Bear was the last really good one.

[clubgop]

What was the last good Common Sense show? Its been well over a year at least. Dan has lost it. It makes me pretty sad. He's become a total waste. HH is barely salvageable at this point.

A rare non-saracastic daralong post! must cherish.

Poking the bear, or even as far back as when he proposed we divide Iraq into 3 countries along contemporary front lines.

Yeah Poking The Bear was the last really good one.

Of course the libs and SSU hate that one.

[Hastur]

Glancing at his twitter feed he seems to be playing a lot of defense. I didn’t see anything here or there to convince me to listen. Sounds like same ol’ Trump bashing followed by shit like “I don’t want to paint antifa with a broad brush” (his Twitter).

Don’t need to listen to hear that. Every day my news feed is full of Trump bashing and Antifa sympathizing. That shit is called the regular ol’ media. I get enough without having to click on a podcast.

Highlights

1. All speech should be protected no matter how offensive you may think it is because you never know when the other guy is gonna be in charge. He called free speech sacred.

2. One of the biggest problems America faces is the fact that we can't communicate with each other, we demonize each other, we attack each others' sources and dismiss each other.

3. I'm not sure how divided we actually are. Are the angry voices online a minority? Is foreign intelligence at play? Both?

4. A couple of sentences about Trump being the king narcissist in a profession entirely made up of narcissists. Check your head if you don't believe he's a not narcissist.

5. The NFL players kneeling story is a cash in for the media. Standing for the anthem is a contractual issue, but forcing people to be patriotic isn't really patriotic.



No antifa sympathizing at all, no calling Trump supporters fascists/nazis. He said the word fascist once, but only quoting the words of somebody who emailed him, a person with whom he disagreed.


Pretty tame actually, mostly Dan just saying that he doesn't know how to operate in a world were people won't talk to each and acknowledging that he's turning into an old geezer.

Listened as well now. It was a pretty tame episode. He was mostly lamenting over how little he has to contribute wit atm.
My takeaway is that Dan is lost in the current political landscape. He has missed the whole SJW vs. Free speech battle or doesn't think it's important. The total collapse of MSM news coverage credibility is of no importance either. He is still looking for for his old pet peeves and wonders where they went in the current debate.
It's good news that he's releasing a new feed of different HH material. Interviews and shorter musings like the recent YouTube bit he released. I think that is the right way to go. He said we should view CS as a rock band that hasn't officially split up but isn't touring or releasing records any more. He might bring it together again sometime in the future.

[ssu]

Now that I got to listen to it, Dan is Dan.

He's not actually changed his views. It's just the people who listen to him change. Many people here never really understood Dan, and didn't share his beliefs. As Dan is typically allways critical to the present administration, haters of that administration typically listen to Dan, but then loose interest as the administration changes and it's "their" guys are in power.

Usually young people don't know that the political discourse just goes round and round and the same old topics come up in a new way. So for Dan, the "been there, seen that" attitude is obvious. Something that happens when you get old.

And I agree the current discourse environment is stupid, just 140 characters to do character assassinations. Not much actual debate, as in a debate you ought to respect the others viewpoint.

[Hwen Hoshino]

And I agree the current discourse environment is stupid, just 140 characters to do character assassinations. Not much actual debate, as in a debate you ought to respect the others viewpoint.

I still understand my opponents well enough in online debates to murder them. I win the debate, they loose their temper.

[ssu]

I still understand my opponents well enough in online debates to murder them. I win the debate, they loose their temper.

But you just give a perfect example of this.

As if the objective of debates are to win them. As if it's a spectator sport and a competition where it's about winning.

And now a spectator sport with an audience that has a very short attention span.

[Hwen Hoshino]

I still understand my opponents well enough in online debates to murder them. I win the debate, they loose their temper.

But you just give a perfect example of this.

As if the objective of debates are to win them. As if it's a spectator sport and a competition where it's about winning.

And now a spectator sport with an audience that has a very short attention span.

I don't care if no one is watching or i get 0 credit for it.

[StCapps]

Now that I got to listen to it, Dan is Dan.

He's not actually changed his views.

Yes he did. Corruption isn't his biggest issue anymore, it's that we hate each other. That is a position change. He hates on the current administration for a lot sillier reasons than he hated on previous administrations as well, now he picks his battles really poorly, like a lot of Trump haters.

Wishful thinking is driving his analysis and he is reaching for MSM talking points to back up that train of thought, he never used pick his battles that poorly, but Trump has triggered him and he reaches way more often to trash this administration than previous ones. It's not trashing Trump that is Dan's problem, it's the way that he trashes on Trump that is the issue.

[Hwen Hoshino]

Now that I got to listen to it, Dan is Dan.

He's not actually changed his views.

Yes he did. Corruption isn't his biggest issue anymore, it's that we hate each other. That is a position change. He hates on the current administration for a lot sillier reasons than he hated on previous administrations as well, now he picks his battles really poorly, like a lot of Trump haters.

Wishful thinking is driving his analysis and he is reaching for MSM talking points to back up that train of thought, he never used pick his battles that poorly, but Trump has triggered him and he reaches way more often to trash this administration than previous ones. It's not trashing Trump that is Dan's problem, it's the way that he trashes on Trump that is the issue.

When did he say this is worse than before?