LET'S BAN GUNS!

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Re: LET'S BAN GUNS!

Post by kybkh » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:05 am

The Conservative wrote:
kybkh wrote:Image

Where is this from?
One of the shooter weapons.
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Re: LET'S BAN GUNS!

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:06 am

The Conservative wrote:
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Speaker to Animals wrote::lol:

This is what happens when Hollywood defines us to the rest of the world. They actually believe this shit.
The rest of the world doesn't care, only Americans argue about this shit, deny it, don't deny it, sweep it under the rug, or send it up the flag pole, either way, doesn't matter to anybody outside of America, only Americans are seized by this, everybody else has their own shit to argue about.
Yeah, and they usually debate with the guns that the Libtards want to ban.
Those guns aren't even banned here, so there's no debate required, the Libtards here, they're not even trying to ban them, the Libtards are in government, and the Firearms Act hasn't come up once, not mentioned at all.

I don't personally bother with an automatic rifle, I'm liscened to buy one, but I have no interest, and I got buddy's who have them anyways, I go to the range from time to time with them, but I don't even bother to shoot, I just give them pointers.
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Re: LET'S BAN GUNS!

Post by The Conservative » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:17 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote: The rest of the world doesn't care, only Americans argue about this shit, deny it, don't deny it, sweep it under the rug, or send it up the flag pole, either way, doesn't matter to anybody outside of America, only Americans are seized by this, everybody else has their own shit to argue about.
Yeah, and they usually debate with the guns that the Libtards want to ban.
Those guns aren't even banned here, so there's no debate required, the Libtards here, they're not even trying to ban them, the Libtards are in government, and the Firearms Act hasn't come up once, not mentioned at all.

I don't personally bother with an automatic rifle, I'm liscened to buy one, but I have no interest, and I got buddy's who have them anyways, I go to the range from time to time with them, but I don't even bother to shoot, I just give them pointers.
They aren't in Mass unless you make it yourself. As for the rest, I meant government when I stated Libtards.
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Re: LET'S BAN GUNS!

Post by PartyOf5 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:20 am

kybkh wrote:Image
Looks like the border wall is pointless. If criminals will just avoid guns laws, therefore making guns laws useless, then the same can be said for a border wall.

I understand the statement being made with that image, but I'm not buying it anymore. Las Vegas was my awakening. I've never cared about guns laws one way or other, but it's time things change. Sure, criminals will find ways around the laws, just like finding a way past a border wall. That doesn't stop us from coming up with laws and ways to enforce those laws.

I've been consistently conservative on most issues in recent years, but this is one where I am done siding with people who want dozens of non-hunting, non-self defense weapons just because they want to own them and shoot them for fun.

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Re: LET'S BAN GUNS!

Post by DBTrek » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:23 am

Great.

"I used to believe you could own a gun for hunting or home defense, but now another tragedy happened, and all the late night comedians are talking, and all my FB friends are yowling, so fuck your rights because criminals murder people, ok!"

Well, fuck you too, PartyOf5.
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Re: LET'S BAN GUNS!

Post by PartyOf5 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:27 am

DBTrek wrote:Great.

"I used to believe you could own a gun for hunting or home defense, but now another tragedy happened, and all the late night comedians are talking, and all my FB friends are yowling, so fuck your rights because criminals murder people, ok!"

Well, fuck you too, PartyOf5.
Good to see you're willing to have a rational discussion on the issue.

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Re: LET'S BAN GUNS!

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:30 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
DBTrek wrote:Great.

"I used to believe you could own a gun for hunting or home defense, but now another tragedy happened, and all the late night comedians are talking, and all my FB friends are yowling, so fuck your rights because criminals murder people, ok!"

Well, fuck you too, PartyOf5.
Good to see you're willing to have a rational discussion on the issue.
Good luck finding that anywhere. :roll:
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Re: LET'S BAN GUNS!

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:33 am

PartyOf5 wrote: I've been consistently conservative on most issues in recent years, but this is one where I am done siding with people who want dozens of non-hunting, non-self defense weapons just because they want to own them and shoot them for fun.
2nd Amendment says "Well Regulated Militia", the SCOTUS has pretty much ruled on that, you can regulate, but you can't regulate it into not being a Militia, and a Militia exceeds "self defense and hunting" by definition, so you're just going to be banging your head against wall with the Democrats for eternity, trying to make "Militia" into "hunting and personal defense", when that's not what constitution says.

It's paramilitary, the founders made it that way, and deliberately, you could change what the constitution says by amending it again, but until you do, you can't change what it says now.
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Re: LET'S BAN GUNS!

Post by DBTrek » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:46 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
DBTrek wrote:Great.

"I used to believe you could own a gun for hunting or home defense, but now another tragedy happened, and all the late night comedians are talking, and all my FB friends are yowling, so fuck your rights because criminals murder people, ok!"

Well, fuck you too, PartyOf5.
Good to see you're willing to have a rational discussion on the issue.
Ah, I see. You want to rationally discuss abridging the rights of US citizens.
Shall we rationally discuss the drowning of puppies while we're at it?
Come now, don't balk at a simple invitation. Let's rationally discuss re-enslaving blacks, purely for the economic benefit, nothing against them personally. I mean - how can one possibly take offense to rational discussion, right?

You can shove your rational discussion of abridging American's rights directly up your paranoid ass.
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Re: LET'S BAN GUNS!

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:50 am

The way to understand it, is like this; every adult American citizen is enrolled in a paramilitary organization, called the United States of America, whether they want to be or not, you're essentially drafted into this Well Regulated Militia, and it's not the state gaming and hunting commission, it is a paramilitary army, in each state, and every American has been in this paramilitary army, since 1776, and trying to defang that by saying "no, no, it's just for hunting", is a fool's errand, you're just pissing in the wind with that, not only is that unconstitutional, it's not even a popular position to take.
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