identity politics are destroying the democratic party

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by GloryofGreece » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:03 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote: We are in very unique media market situation.
Every other communications revolution involved mass bloodshed. I see no reason why this one should be different.
Paper...
Printing press...Reformation (Ok theres a link but not causation)
Telegraph...
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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:14 pm

GloryofGreece wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
de officiis wrote:I just wonder at how someone who is receiving (and paying for) a college education can say such ignorant things. These sorts of remarks are, as Lt. Kaffee would say, "galatically stupid."

I think it's biology, honestly.

There's a genetic component. But also there exists a psychological component. These are men who can't live up to the heavy demands that society places on manhood. They adopted female politics.

All this open borders, nanny-state stuff is pure female politics. We are a patrilocal species. Before complex culture, for a very long time, women would migrate between gangs/clans run by men. Men secured territory for their clans and maintained the borders. When females grew up, they would be traded to other clans or would just migrate to them to seek out mates. This is why we can see the mitochondrial DNA migrate quite a lot faster than y-chromosomes in the skeletal records.

Women want to maximize access to mates. This is why you see Europe, which arguably is being run mostly by females at this point, is enduring a mass migration of males from Africa, the Near East, and Central Asia. If it were the other way around, and there were millions upon millions of women migrating into Europe, you better believe the females would suddenly have a problem with it.

I have seen an article recently where unchecked female hypergamy in England has led to married women deciding to travel to the migrant camps in Calais to provide sexual services to males (as a "charity").

At what point do we finally just accept that most of our differences are biological? Weaker men seek out feminized, collectivized politics. Their mating strategy is to differentiate themselves from other men in the only way they know how: to become the obsequious "nice guy". Most men want to secure borders because it's in our nature to do so. We try to protect what is ours, and our group from the out-group.

Women, on the other hand, have no such loyalties to the in-group. At least, it's not something that is innate to them. This is why war brides is a thing. Women will just kick it up with the invading men after their own men are defeated.
I wonder how many untold millions of women killed themselves and/or aborted their unborn after being raped? I wonder how much 'war brides" and other caricatures have to do with you know being weaker physically not just being selfish cunts?

Was you mother loyal to you but not your father?
You don't want to understand what I am telling you. Borders are not as big of a deal to human females. When you strip away complex culture and civilization, we are a patrilocal species, similar in that respect to chimps, in which the social groups are governed by males and females migrate between groups. This is why most women support open borders and globalist style political order. Men and women are very different and have different biological drives.

If it were possible, I guarantee that, if you were to manage to limit migration into Europe to young females, this mass migration would be shut down - by European women - by the end of the year. At a biological level, they do things that would maximize their access to mates. This is why they won't support reforming the biased divorce courts even though they intellectual know the policies therein are wrong. It's why the mass migration into Europe is mostly young males.

Would you show half as much compassion for men that you show for women, even though women pretty damned well have it made in the west.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:29 pm

For this democracy to work, we need to recognize all of the evolutionary psychological factors that play into these politics, and seeing these things for what they are.

Women are very different from us. We should be able to let them advocate for their self-interest, but we need to be weary of falling into the beta trap of becoming subservient to them. It's extremely rare to find women who show even half the compassion for men that you show for their interests. It's just not in their nature. You really need to recognize that.

It doesn't make them raging cunts or whatever you said. They are just different. They have a different evolutionary background, different drives, and different imperatives.

The problem is, in my humble opinion, that civilization (and even simply complex culture for that matter) derive from male psychology. There never were any civilizations built by women. Women never built complex cultures. Men built these things. So what exactly happens when we hand over all the power to women? Apparently the answer is that women try to implement a bonobo-like society in which their mating options are maximized, all perceived threats to their emotional well-being are neutralized, and men are basically reduced to sex objects and economic providers who can be replaced on a whim. In short: civization slowly disentigrates until a stronger more masculine culture takes over.

I think everybody needs to consider the possibility that civilization is a distinctly male enterprise in our species. I am not saying women cannot possibly cut it at running one, but evidence on hand, provided by our entire civilization now, does not support their case. At all.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Hwen Hoshino » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:31 am

Okeefenokee wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
No.

You're mistaken.

SOME people are different, ALWAYS.

Of course there are always some people who are different. Some is not most, and never has been.

Given that those who are different have, and always will be, only some, it is foolish to think that the few who are different negate the majority who have, and always will be, the same.
People who can read and write + instantly communicate are different period.
People always think they're different.

You aren't special just because you have access to a service someone else invented, and someone else provided for you.

People who have microwaves, and can cook hot pockets instantly are different, period.

Sounds equally retarded.
If a Navy Seal time travels into Ancient Rome fully armed he would be pretty fucking special.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Ex-California » Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:30 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
nmoore63 wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote: We are in very unique media market situation.
Every other communications revolution involved mass bloodshed. I see no reason why this one should be different.
Paper...
Printing press...Reformation (Ok theres a link but not causation)
Telegraph...
Telegraph = Industrialized warfare
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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by GloryofGreece » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:50 am

California wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote:
nmoore63 wrote: Every other communications revolution involved mass bloodshed. I see no reason why this one should be different.
Paper...
Printing press...Reformation (Ok theres a link but not causation)
Telegraph...
Telegraph = Industrialized warfare
No it doesn't = industrial warfare. It didn't cause war which is what you could argue the printing press had an influence in "causing" the reformation. Telephones didn't cause WWII. Writing hieroglyphics didn't cause Middle Kingdom in Egypt to end in chaos etc.
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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:57 am

Yeah, the idea that the Reformation was caused by the printing press seems pretty silly.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by GloryofGreece » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:50 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

I think it's biology, honestly.

There's a genetic component. But also there exists a psychological component. These are men who can't live up to the heavy demands that society places on manhood. They adopted female politics.

All this open borders, nanny-state stuff is pure female politics. We are a patrilocal species. Before complex culture, for a very long time, women would migrate between gangs/clans run by men. Men secured territory for their clans and maintained the borders. When females grew up, they would be traded to other clans or would just migrate to them to seek out mates. This is why we can see the mitochondrial DNA migrate quite a lot faster than y-chromosomes in the skeletal records.

Women want to maximize access to mates. This is why you see Europe, which arguably is being run mostly by females at this point, is enduring a mass migration of males from Africa, the Near East, and Central Asia. If it were the other way around, and there were millions upon millions of women migrating into Europe, you better believe the females would suddenly have a problem with it.

I have seen an article recently where unchecked female hypergamy in England has led to married women deciding to travel to the migrant camps in Calais to provide sexual services to males (as a "charity").

At what point do we finally just accept that most of our differences are biological? Weaker men seek out feminized, collectivized politics. Their mating strategy is to differentiate themselves from other men in the only way they know how: to become the obsequious "nice guy". Most men want to secure borders because it's in our nature to do so. We try to protect what is ours, and our group from the out-group.

Women, on the other hand, have no such loyalties to the in-group. At least, it's not something that is innate to them. This is why war brides is a thing. Women will just kick it up with the invading men after their own men are defeated.
I wonder how many untold millions of women killed themselves and/or aborted their unborn after being raped? I wonder how much 'war brides" and other caricatures have to do with you know being weaker physically not just being selfish cunts?

Was you mother loyal to you but not your father?
You don't want to understand what I am telling you. Borders are not as big of a deal to human females. When you strip away complex culture and civilization, we are a patrilocal species, similar in that respect to chimps, in which the social groups are governed by males and females migrate between groups. This is why most women support open borders and globalist style political order. Men and women are very different and have different biological drives.

If it were possible, I guarantee that, if you were to manage to limit migration into Europe to young females, this mass migration would be shut down - by European women - by the end of the year. At a biological level, they do things that would maximize their access to mates. This is why they won't support reforming the biased divorce courts even though they intellectual know the policies therein are wrong. It's why the mass migration into Europe is mostly young males.

Would you show half as much compassion for men that you show for women, even though women pretty damned well have it made in the west.
All those fighting aged men coming into fuck native women. No not really. Looks like theres a good amount of women and kids to. So I don't see your argument as valid or relevant really at all. Native women aren't going to increase their ability to fuck more men in this scenario.
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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:52 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote:
I wonder how many untold millions of women killed themselves and/or aborted their unborn after being raped? I wonder how much 'war brides" and other caricatures have to do with you know being weaker physically not just being selfish cunts?

Was you mother loyal to you but not your father?
You don't want to understand what I am telling you. Borders are not as big of a deal to human females. When you strip away complex culture and civilization, we are a patrilocal species, similar in that respect to chimps, in which the social groups are governed by males and females migrate between groups. This is why most women support open borders and globalist style political order. Men and women are very different and have different biological drives.

If it were possible, I guarantee that, if you were to manage to limit migration into Europe to young females, this mass migration would be shut down - by European women - by the end of the year. At a biological level, they do things that would maximize their access to mates. This is why they won't support reforming the biased divorce courts even though they intellectual know the policies therein are wrong. It's why the mass migration into Europe is mostly young males.

Would you show half as much compassion for men that you show for women, even though women pretty damned well have it made in the west.
All those fighting aged men coming into fuck native women. No not really. Looks like theres a good amount of women and kids to. So I don't see your argument as valid or relevant really at all. Native women aren't going to increase their ability to fuck more men in this scenario.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... rview-syr/
https://www.bustle.com/articles/124960- ... ally-wrong

What the hell? One of my suspicions about betas was just confirmed.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by GloryofGreece » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:58 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
You don't want to understand what I am telling you. Borders are not as big of a deal to human females. When you strip away complex culture and civilization, we are a patrilocal species, similar in that respect to chimps, in which the social groups are governed by males and females migrate between groups. This is why most women support open borders and globalist style political order. Men and women are very different and have different biological drives.

If it were possible, I guarantee that, if you were to manage to limit migration into Europe to young females, this mass migration would be shut down - by European women - by the end of the year. At a biological level, they do things that would maximize their access to mates. This is why they won't support reforming the biased divorce courts even though they intellectual know the policies therein are wrong. It's why the mass migration into Europe is mostly young males.

Would you show half as much compassion for men that you show for women, even though women pretty damned well have it made in the west.
All those fighting aged men coming into fuck native women. No not really. Looks like theres a good amount of women and kids to. So I don't see your argument as valid or relevant really at all. Native women aren't going to increase their ability to fuck more men in this scenario.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... rview-syr/
https://www.bustle.com/articles/124960- ... ally-wrong
What the hell? One of my suspicions about betas was just confirmed.
Elaborate and keep the insults coming. :shifty:
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