Unfolding London Bridge Incident

[TheReal_ND]

The romanian that faced the terorists without running.Some translation from him:

"Two terrorists are cutting people on the street
"I hit him in the head!With the trashbin!Knocked him out with the basket!
"Go bring me the pole that's under the table!Florin,that hard pole from under the table, bring it to me"

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http://www.digi24.ro/stiri/externe/ue/r ... cit-736870


Romania saving Europe from Muslims again...

[BjornP]

+1 Good Post

I'm waiting for the mass Muslim Movement to stop these 'radical' interpretations.

Thank you.

I honestly think that it's useless to expect a counter-movement against the massive funding and missionary efforts undertaking by the Wahhabist Saudi Arabians and their co-religionists from the Middle Eastern countries.

But the best hope for a counter-Salafist movement are European Muslims, particularly those who were born and raised here, who adopted the values and loved the freedoms (compared to their home countries) and who insist that participating in democracy, excercising free speech, and even leaving Islam itself...should be free to do without religious reprisal. Those Muslims absolutely exist. We have some of them in Danish politics. But atm... they're outnumbered by a silent majority of Muslims, and shouted down by another minority... the aggressive and sometimes intimidating Salafist crowd.

I doubt they are the "radical" interpretations, personally. I think they are being true to their faith, and the guys westerners try to stand up as the "moderates" are lukewarm Muslims who don't really believe their own religion.

In that case, being "lukewarm" is preferable to being a literalist, no?

Being "true to one's faith" would also be radical for a 21st century Jew. You do realize that Jews are supposed to kill apostates as well? That they're supposed to kill gay men? Yet...they don't. Despite their religion being abundantly clear about it. Are modern day Orthodox Jews "lukewarm Jews"? How many of the rules of the Bible do you and your fellow Catholics follow? To the letter, I mean. You a luke-warm Catholic Christian who doesn't really believe in your own religion? Are all Christians who work on Sundays, Christians who "don't really believe their own religion"?

No?

Then... perhaps one might assume that that same sort of, let's call it flexibility, about one's religion, exists within other religions, too. That's probably why Muslim countries exist that don't throw gays off of rooftops or behead apostates and yet still identify as Muslim.

[Montegriffo]

The IRA situation didn't have anything to do with religion. The IRA were a bunch of communists who were fighting for political control of Northern Ireland.







Imagine if Antifa were hardened communists terrorists rather than beta faggots with masks and sticks. That would be a better description of the IRA.

UFF or Ulster Freedom Fighters are loyalist Protestants not part of the republican cause, but don't let the facts get in the way of your Marxist bashing rhetoric.

[TheReal_ND]

Still commies though

[Montegriffo]

Still commies though

Nope, they always back the Conservative government.

[BjornP]

I mean.. I don't even know why I bothered in the first place. That terror attacks are more frequent during Ramadan is hardly some arcane knowledge. It's demonstrable fact. So I try to give you the case for why that might be the fact, and you just commit more fallacy in refusing to even acknowledge the reason why.

Can you shove your head any further up your own ass?

Total dishonesty on your part. I explained excatly why your list from Breitbart was completely and utterly worthless. You're being extremely manipulative right now by saying that I "even refuse to acknowledge the reason why". I reject guilty by association arguments, and argued logically against the irrationality that your little Breitbart list of Ramadan warfare, proved anything in general about the purpose of Ramadan. The purpose of Ramadan is fasting, and that's plain and simple what most Muslims for 1300 years have used it for.

And...It's a demonstrable fact that innocent Jews were murdered by Christians all the time. That heretics were murdered. Oh noes! Right? We must conclude that Christianity is an evil, nasty, religion out to annihilate everyone.

But wait... what the FUCK does a few cases of atrocities, past or present actually prove about Christianity and the billion currently living, and the trillions of dead Christians? Imo, absolutely nada. Your Breitbart list listed a tiny example of cases of murder and warfare committed on Ramadan. Whoop-de-fucking-do, StA. Again, billions and billions and billions of Muslims have for 1300 years, and billions now, held and hold Ramadan without engaging in warfare because the Ramadan is not the "Jihad Month", it's the fasting month.

[BjornP]

We are talking about the 1970s and 1980s, TC. They were straight-up communists already. We are not talking about 1919..

Not Marxist:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provision ... lican_Army

Marxist:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_ ... lican_Army

[TheReal_ND]

Still commies though

Nope, they always back the Conservative government.

Nah nah nah I know a commie when I see one. Basically anything to the left of

[The Conservative]

Still commies though

Nope, they always back the Conservative government.

You're just wrong, get used to it.

[Montegriffo]

Still commies though

Nope, they always back the Conservative government.

You're just wrong, get used to it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Un ... erformance
Ulster Unionist Party- political party of Unionists in Ireland

In July 2008, the UUP and Conservative Party announced that a joint working group had been established to examine closer ties. On 26 February 2009, the Ulster Unionist Executive and area council of Northern Ireland Conservatives agreed to field joint candidates in future elections to the House of Commons and European Parliament under the name "Ulster Conservatives and Unionists – New Force". The agreement meant that Ulster Unionist MPs could have sat in a Conservative Government, renewing the relationship that had broken down in 1974 over the Sunningdale Agreement and in 1985 over the Anglo-Irish Agreement.[24][25][26] The UUP's sole remaining MP at the time, Sylvia Hermon, opposed the agreement, stating she would not be willing to stand under the UCUNF banner.

Not always in full agreement with the Tories over NI policies but a long long way from being Communists or even socialists.
But carry on telling me how wrong I am about my country's history.....