His Name Was Seth Rich

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Re: His Name Was Seth Rich

Post by C-Mag » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:49 pm

Penner wrote:So you are going to believe Assange over your own nation's intelligence then? In my opinion, this dude doesn't care about anything but his own ego. He doesn't care about America and doesn't care what he puts on his website either.

Hmmmm

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Re: His Name Was Seth Rich

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https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new ... -dnc-hack/
A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack
Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all, but a leak—an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system.
By Patrick Lawrence
AUGUST 9, 2017

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Forensicator’s first decisive findings, made public in the paper dated July 9, concerned the volume of the supposedly hacked material and what is called the transfer rate—the time a remote hack would require. The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second.

These statistics are matters of record and essential to disproving the hack theory. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed. Compounding this contradiction, Guccifer claimed to have run his hack from Romania, which, for numerous reasons technically called delivery overheads, would slow down the speed of a hack even further from maximum achievable speeds.

Time stamps in the metadata indicate the download occurred somewhere on the East Coast of the United States—not Russia, Romania, or anywhere else outside the EDT zone.

What is the maximum achievable speed? Forensicator recently ran a test download of a comparable data volume (and using a server speed not available in 2016) 40 miles from his computer via a server 20 miles away and came up with a speed of 11.8 megabytes per second—half what the DNC operation would need were it a hack. Other investigators have built on this finding. Folden and Edward Loomis say a survey published August 3, 2016, by www.speedtest.net/reports is highly reliable and use it as their thumbnail index. It indicated that the highest average ISP speeds of first-half 2016 were achieved by Xfinity and Cox Communications. These speeds averaged 15.6 megabytes per second and 14.7 megabytes per second, respectively. Peak speeds at higher rates were recorded intermittently but still did not reach the required 22.7 megabytes per second.

“A speed of 22.7 megabytes is simply unobtainable, especially if we are talking about a transoceanic data transfer,” Folden said. “Based on the data we now have, what we’ve been calling a hack is impossible.” Last week Forensicator reported on a speed test he conducted more recently. It tightens the case considerably. “Transfer rates of 23 MB/s (Mega Bytes per second) are not just highly unlikely, but effectively impossible to accomplish when communicating over the Internet at any significant distance,” he wrote. “Further, local copy speeds are measured, demonstrating that 23 MB/s is a typical transfer rate when using a USB–2 flash device (thumb drive).”

Time stamps in the metadata provide further evidence of what happened on July 5. The stamps recording the download indicate that it occurred in the Eastern Daylight Time Zone at approximately 6:45 pm. This confirms that the person entering the DNC system was working somewhere on the East Coast of the United States. In theory the operation could have been conducted from Bangor or Miami or anywhere in between—but not Russia, Romania, or anywhere else outside the EDT zone. Combined with Forensicator’s findings on the transfer rate, the time stamps constitute more evidence that the download was conducted locally, since delivery overheads—conversion of data into packets, addressing, sequencing times, error checks, and the like—degrade all data transfers conducted via the Internet, more or less according to the distance involved.

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Re: His Name Was Seth Rich

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:32 am

Hastur wrote:https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new ... -dnc-hack/
A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack
Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all, but a leak—an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system.
By Patrick Lawrence
AUGUST 9, 2017

<----snip---->

Forensicator’s first decisive findings, made public in the paper dated July 9, concerned the volume of the supposedly hacked material and what is called the transfer rate—the time a remote hack would require. The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second.

These statistics are matters of record and essential to disproving the hack theory. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed. Compounding this contradiction, Guccifer claimed to have run his hack from Romania, which, for numerous reasons technically called delivery overheads, would slow down the speed of a hack even further from maximum achievable speeds.

Time stamps in the metadata indicate the download occurred somewhere on the East Coast of the United States—not Russia, Romania, or anywhere else outside the EDT zone.

What is the maximum achievable speed? Forensicator recently ran a test download of a comparable data volume (and using a server speed not available in 2016) 40 miles from his computer via a server 20 miles away and came up with a speed of 11.8 megabytes per second—half what the DNC operation would need were it a hack. Other investigators have built on this finding. Folden and Edward Loomis say a survey published August 3, 2016, by http://www.speedtest.net/reports is highly reliable and use it as their thumbnail index. It indicated that the highest average ISP speeds of first-half 2016 were achieved by Xfinity and Cox Communications. These speeds averaged 15.6 megabytes per second and 14.7 megabytes per second, respectively. Peak speeds at higher rates were recorded intermittently but still did not reach the required 22.7 megabytes per second.

“A speed of 22.7 megabytes is simply unobtainable, especially if we are talking about a transoceanic data transfer,” Folden said. “Based on the data we now have, what we’ve been calling a hack is impossible.” Last week Forensicator reported on a speed test he conducted more recently. It tightens the case considerably. “Transfer rates of 23 MB/s (Mega Bytes per second) are not just highly unlikely, but effectively impossible to accomplish when communicating over the Internet at any significant distance,” he wrote. “Further, local copy speeds are measured, demonstrating that 23 MB/s is a typical transfer rate when using a USB–2 flash device (thumb drive).”

Time stamps in the metadata provide further evidence of what happened on July 5. The stamps recording the download indicate that it occurred in the Eastern Daylight Time Zone at approximately 6:45 pm. This confirms that the person entering the DNC system was working somewhere on the East Coast of the United States. In theory the operation could have been conducted from Bangor or Miami or anywhere in between—but not Russia, Romania, or anywhere else outside the EDT zone. Combined with Forensicator’s findings on the transfer rate, the time stamps constitute more evidence that the download was conducted locally, since delivery overheads—conversion of data into packets, addressing, sequencing times, error checks, and the like—degrade all data transfers conducted via the Internet, more or less according to the distance involved.

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Long article with lots of info.
That was revealed months ago. Now that the IC-narrative is about to blow up in their faces, they've suddenly "found new evidence" again.

Fuck, I'm actually starting to believe the conspiracy theories...
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Re: His Name Was Seth Rich

Post by clubgop » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:32 pm

Penner wrote:
clubgop wrote:
Penner wrote:So you are going to believe Assange over your own nation's intelligence then? In my opinion, this dude doesn't care about anything but his own ego. He doesn't care about America and doesn't care what he puts on his website either.
This is awesome. The democrats have become fully vested and protective of the CIA and NSA because they are that incapable of winning elections. Oh man this is going to be awesome.
Never said that. All I am saying is why believe Assange when he has his own motives over our own country?
But the CIA and NSA doesn't. :lol:

Like I said, awesome.

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Re: His Name Was Seth Rich

Post by C-Mag » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:21 pm

the Department of Justice has demanded every shred of evidence that has come with the case of Seth Rich
https://conservativedailypost.com/just- ... ter-stage/
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Re: His Name Was Seth Rich

Post by ssu » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:13 am

C-Mag wrote:the Department of Justice has demanded every shred of evidence that has come with the case of Seth Rich
https://conservativedailypost.com/just- ... ter-stage/
Hahahaaa!!!

What ridiculous bullshit fake news.

The header shouldn't say: "JUST IN: DOJ Demands EVERYTHING As Seth Rich Murder Takes Center Stage", it should say: "Texas Lawyer (that ealier wanted to get Mrs Clinton barred because of the emails) has made a FOIA request on Seth Rich case".

That the real "news" here. Period. Nothing else.

And it should be telling where this article is going with the following:
Meanwhile, interesting developments keep happening in the Seth Rich murder case. Republican Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is urging Trump to meet with Assange, who is seeking a pardon if he provides the U.S. with more information about who his source was for the DNC email leak. Assange says the “information will be of dramatic importance to the United States.” At a meeting between Rohrabacher and Assange this summer, he assured Rohrabacher that Trump had nothing to do with the leaked emails. WikiLeaks is offering a $20,000 reward for any substantive information that leads to the killer’s arrest.
So the Steven Segal type friend of Russia Rohrabacher is behind here too. Let's look if he gets Assange pardoned! Wikileaks is offering a reward? I remember OJ Simpson was offering a reward too and promising to look for the real killers too.

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But it's nice that some are still whipping this dead horse (or should we say dead Democrat) even after the leaks that Roger Stone bragged about to happen happened far later than the death of Seth Rich. Yep, when the actual inquiries are looking at the meetings of the Trump people with the Russians, the Trump-truthers are still clinging on to Seth Rich.

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Re: His Name Was Seth Rich

Post by Dand » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:41 am

It's been 10 months and, in their own words, the actual inquires have found "nothing". :violin:

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Re: His Name Was Seth Rich

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:36 am

Masked operatives break into Assange's lawyer's office, once he mentions Seth Rich. :think:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-2 ... s-video-se
Three hooded figures dressed in black broke into the Madrid office of WikiLeaks lawyer Baltasar Garzon at dawn on Monday morning, in what police are describing as a "very professional" operation they are treating as an attempted robbery, according to Spain's largest newspaper, El País. Garzon heads Assange's legal defense, in particular working to avoid extradition to Sweden and preparing to face charges thought to be pending by U.S. authorities.
Hours after the break-in, and shortly before WikiLeaks tweeted the original article from El País, Julian Assange called a Jimmy Dore video "Brilliant" which prominently features Assange's interview with a Dutch television host in which the WikiLeaks founder all but used sign language to indicate slain DNC Seth Rich was his source.
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Re: His Name Was Seth Rich

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:46 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Masked operatives break into Assange's lawyer's office, once he mentions Seth Rich. :think:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-2 ... s-video-se
Three hooded figures dressed in black broke into the Madrid office of WikiLeaks lawyer Baltasar Garzon at dawn on Monday morning, in what police are describing as a "very professional" operation they are treating as an attempted robbery, according to Spain's largest newspaper, El País. Garzon heads Assange's legal defense, in particular working to avoid extradition to Sweden and preparing to face charges thought to be pending by U.S. authorities.
Hours after the break-in, and shortly before WikiLeaks tweeted the original article from El País, Julian Assange called a Jimmy Dore video "Brilliant" which prominently features Assange's interview with a Dutch television host in which the WikiLeaks founder all but used sign language to indicate slain DNC Seth Rich was his source.
I'd never seen that video before: my god, he does indicate it's Seth Rich.

p.s. While that video was playing, my computer was attacked with a virus.
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Re: His Name Was Seth Rich

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:51 am

That's not a virus.

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