Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by clubgop » Sun May 07, 2017 3:05 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
Well, you want to go by that...

However what I mean is that I am loyal to the American nation (the people) not to whoever claims they control us (the state, or more accurately whatever is the current regime).
So, what do you do when the people create a state?
I am loyal to both, but I more loyal to the people, to the nation part of the nation-state. The state after all, is suppose to be the creation of, and the servant of, the people/nation.

Too many, especially in government, confuse and conflate the two. Should one think the people serve the president, or congress, or does the president serve the people?
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He's a white nationalist. You heard it here.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun May 07, 2017 3:15 pm

:lol:
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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by jbird4049 » Sun May 07, 2017 3:20 pm

clubgop wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
So, what do you do when the people create a state?
I am loyal to both, but I more loyal to the people, to the nation part of the nation-state. The state after all, is suppose to be the creation of, and the servant of, the people/nation.

Too many, especially in government, confuse and conflate the two. Should one think the people serve the president, or congress, or does the president serve the people?
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
He's a white nationalist. You heard it here.
Hey if it makes you happy to believe that Dude.

Although I do have to ask, how does being an American nationalist make me a white nationalist? The two are not synonymous.
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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun May 07, 2017 3:26 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
clubgop wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
I am loyal to both, but I more loyal to the people, to the nation part of the nation-state. The state after all, is suppose to be the creation of, and the servant of, the people/nation.

Too many, especially in government, confuse and conflate the two. Should one think the people serve the president, or congress, or does the president serve the people?
He's a white nationalist. You heard it here.
Hey if it makes you happy to believe that Dude.

Although I do have to ask, how does being an American nationalist make me a white nationalist? The two are not synonymous.
You would have had to turn on the tv or look at just a single news headline any time in the past year and a half to understand.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.

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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by jbird4049 » Sun May 07, 2017 3:45 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
clubgop wrote:
He's a white nationalist. You heard it here.
Hey if it makes you happy to believe that Dude.

Although I do have to ask, how does being an American nationalist make me a white nationalist? The two are not synonymous.
You would have had to turn on the tv or look at just a single news headline any time in the past year and a half to understand.
Just because some jackasses decided to hijack the words, and others refuse to read a dictionary, does not mean I shouldn't use them as they are meant to be used.

It's no different when some label everything than might help people as socialism/communism/Marxism and therefore evil because Stalin must have approved, does not make it so. It's a smear campaign, guilt by association.

So, once again. I am an American nationalist. I am not a white nationalist.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by clubgop » Sun May 07, 2017 3:49 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
clubgop wrote:
He's a white nationalist. You heard it here.
Hey if it makes you happy to believe that Dude.

Although I do have to ask, how does being an American nationalist make me a white nationalist? The two are not synonymous.
You're white aint ya?

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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by clubgop » Sun May 07, 2017 3:52 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
Hey if it makes you happy to believe that Dude.

Although I do have to ask, how does being an American nationalist make me a white nationalist? The two are not synonymous.
You would have had to turn on the tv or look at just a single news headline any time in the past year and a half to understand.
Just because some jackasses decided to hijack the words, and others refuse to read a dictionary, does not mean I shouldn't use them as they are meant to be used.

It's no different when some label everything than might help people as socialism/communism/Marxism and therefore evil because Stalin must have approved, does not make it so. It's a smear campaign, guilt by association.

So, once again. I am an American nationalist. I am not a white nationalist.
White American nationalist doesn't sound much better. Not even for cheese.

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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by jbird4049 » Sun May 07, 2017 6:11 pm

clubgop wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
You would have had to turn on the tv or look at just a single news headline any time in the past year and a half to understand.
Just because some jackasses decided to hijack the words, and others refuse to read a dictionary, does not mean I shouldn't use them as they are meant to be used.

It's no different when some label everything than might help people as socialism/communism/Marxism and therefore evil because Stalin must have approved, does not make it so. It's a smear campaign, guilt by association.

So, once again. I am an American nationalist. I am not a white nationalist.
White American nationalist doesn't sound much better. Not even for cheese.
Which is fine as I'm not a White Nationalist.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by heydaralon » Sun May 07, 2017 6:31 pm

a better name for this thread would be: DNC takes condom off before buttfucking Queefen Colbert.
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Re: Colbert takes the gloves off on Trump

Post by brewster » Sun May 07, 2017 6:37 pm

jbird4049 wrote: Which is fine as I'm not a White Nationalist.
That's like saying your truck tires aren't black tires, they're just tires. Finding exceptions to either is not very easy, how often have you seen non-black tires or non-white Nationalists?
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