Does anyone on this forum actually care about Syria?

[TheReal_ND]

Oh and they can't keep their dicks in their pants but women wanted it. REFUGEES WELCOME. EVEN IN MY PANTS.

[Montegriffo]

Oh and they can't keep their dicks in their pants but women wanted it. REFUGEES WELCOME. EVEN IN MY PANTS.

[BjornP]

True. And, I suppose this overlaps well with the "the right and the left need each other-debate" thread, but the national discourse on the topic of refugees is so unhelpfully polarized. Either refugees are the biggest problem or there's no problem. Both BS. There's very little honest discussion in this realm.

It's the largest refugee crisis since WWII, if you won't see that as a problem then you are being dishonest.
The figures I gave are where the refugees have fled to, registered or unregistered is splitting hairs.

Wasn't the refugee numbers at the time of the wars in Ex-Yugoslavia bigger? Or have those numbers been surpassed now?

[Montegriffo]

True. And, I suppose this overlaps well with the "the right and the left need each other-debate" thread, but the national discourse on the topic of refugees is so unhelpfully polarized. Either refugees are the biggest problem or there's no problem. Both BS. There's very little honest discussion in this realm.

It's the largest refugee crisis since WWII, if you won't see that as a problem then you are being dishonest.
The figures I gave are where the refugees have fled to, registered or unregistered is splitting hairs.

Wasn't the refugee numbers at the time of the wars in Ex-Yugoslavia bigger? Or have those numbers been surpassed now?

It's a point brought up by the BBC and other media output. If you add the 4 million+ external refugees to the 6 million+ internally displaced citizens I doubt the Yugoslavian figures were bigger but I don't really have the bandwidth to check it out.

[Montegriffo]

Do you feel sorry for the people there? Do you see it as I do, as a pawn in global politics? Anyway to the point...

I find it fascinating that the media will continue to manipulate us to feel sorry for the people of Syria to extend X, Y, and Z agendas, meanwhile, we have our own inner cities which are complete shit in some places that no publication will analyze.

I don't feel sorry for the people of Syria. Am I heartless? Maybe? But, I'm sick of our media trying to lull us into becoming more involved because children are dying. All that tells me is the adults there are awful people, why would I defend such a place? Why should I care? Culturally that part of the world is devoid of logic.

Syria is a perfect example as to why Trump won the election. People in America want to care about Americans first. Syria can fuck off.

What happened to [4][2]? He wrote the op and [6][15].

[Otern]

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Why aren't neighboring Arab countries allowing in more refugees for example?

from Wiki.

Refugees of the Syrian Civil War Total population:

4,812,993 refugees (registered, March 2016)[1]
6,130,000-6,320,000 refugees (based on UN estimate, March 2016)[2]
Regions with important populations[3]
Turkey 2,724,937 (registered as of August 2016)[4]
2,748,367 (the highest number registered since 3 March 2016)
Lebanon 1,500,000 (estimated arrivals as of Dec 2015)
1,048,275 (registered)[5]
Jordan 1,265,000 (census results as of Nov 2015)[6]
657,422 (registered July 2016)[7]
Germany 600,000 (registered by April 2016)[8]
Greece 496,119 (arrivals to May 2016)[9]
54,574 (estimated in country May 2016)[9]
5,615 (applicants to Dec 2015)[10]
Saudi Arabia 420,000 (estimated overstays as of 2015)[11]
Macedonia 400,000 (estimated arrivals)[9]
2,150 (applicants to December 2015)[10]
Serbia (incl. Kosovo) 313,314 (applicants to December 2015)[10]
Iraq (incl. Iraqi Kurdistan) 1,139,000 (estimated in Iraqi Kurdistan)
956,000 (estimated rest of Iraq March 2016)
249,395 (registered)[12]
United Arab Emirates 242,000 (estimated overstays, government source, 2015) [13][14]
Kuwait 155,000+[11][15] (estimated overstays to June 2015)
Egypt 117,702 (registered as of March 2016)
119,665 (UNHCR estimate as of March 2016)[16]
500,000 (Egypt MFA estimate as of September 2016)
Sweden 110,333 (applicants to December 2015) [10]
Hungary

72,505 (applicants to December 2015) [10]
Canada 61,886 (applicants to Dec 2016)
43,589 (approved as of Dec 2016)
39,902 (resettled as of Dec 2016)[17][18]
Croatia 55,000 (estimated as of September 2015)[19]
386 (applicants to December 2015) [10]
Algeria 43,000 (estimated as of November 2015)
5,721 (registered as of November 2015) [20]
Qatar 40,000 (estimated overstays 2015)[11]
42 (registered)[11]
Austria 39,131 (applicants to July 2016)[10]
Netherlands 31,963 (applicants to July 2016) [10]
Libya 26,672 (registered as of December 2015)[1]
Armenia 20,000 (estimated as of October 2016)[21]
Denmark 19,433 (applicants to December 2015)[10]
Bulgaria 17,527 (applicants to December 2015)[10]
United States 16,218 (resettled to November 2016) [22]
Belgium 15,951 (applicants to July 2016) [10]
Norway 13,993 (applicants to December 2015)[10]
Singapore 13,856 (applicants to December 2015)[10]
Switzerland 12,931 (applicants to July 2016)[10]
France 11,694 (applicants to July 2016)[10]
Brazil 9,000 (approved) [23]
2,097 (as of November 2015)[24]
United Kingdom 9,467 (applicants to July 2016)[10]
5,102 (resettled as of August 2015) [25]
Spain 8,365 (applicants to December 2015)[10]
Russia 5,000 (estimated 2015)[26]
Malaysia 5,000 (estimated August 2015)[citation needed]
Australia 4,500 (2015)
Tunisia 4,000 (September 2015)[27]
Cyprus 3,527 (applicants to December 2015)[10]
Bahrain 3,500 (estimated June 2015)[11]
Argentina 3,000 (approved)[28]
Montenegro 2,975 (applicants to December 2015)[10]
Italy 2,538 (applicants to December 2015)[10]
Romania 2,525 (applicants to December 2015)[10]
Malta 1,222 (applicants to December 2015) [10]
Somalia 1,312 (as of January 2016)
Finland 1,127 (as of December 2015)[10]
Gaza Strip 1,000 (as of December 2013)[29]
Language: Arabic, Kurdish, Turkish, Armenian, Aramaic
Religion: Sunni Islam, Christianity, Shia Islam, Yazidism, Druze

I think you will find the neighbouring Arab countries are doing their bit. Note Saudi Arabia has 420,000 and is 6th on the list.

What's really great about this post is that it shows where the crisis is worst. Lebanon and Jordan is barely mentioned in the media, but they are the ones who need the most economical help right now. Usually, most people just think Europe is having a crisis, and there's just talk about how to integrate, and how many we should accept. While the situation in Lebanon and Jordan is ignored.

Europe could help a lot more people by allocating resources to Lebanon and Jordan, rather than accepting the refugees here, and the high costs related to it.

[Montegriffo]

That's very true, also the refugees would be closer to home should it ever become safe enough to return.
However if it takes 20 years until it is safe to return then a refugee camp in the desert is no place to wait for it to happen. At least the small numbers accepted into Europe have a chance to rebuild their lives and may still wish to return eventually and if they have worked hard they may be able to take some capitol with them. A life of resorting to charitable hand outs in a tent in the desert will not prepare them for anything and could lead to resentment and further conflict.
It's also possible that exposure to Western values may make them less inclined towards the kind of hatred towards the West that we are currently experiencing.

[clubgop]

What exactly would be your suggestion?

Not on me. I am not an elected Democrat in the inner city.

So, in summary, you have no alternative ideas, not even a vague conception of how things could be run differently, but you're absolutely convinced that Democrat are responsible.

This why you are a partisan hack bitch. You know how this game is played. But you get all Casablanca when you discover Republicans are playing the same game. Also I do have ideas and alternatives but why offer when I know you and other hack bitches wont consider them and call them racist, sexist, bigot, homophobic, transphobic. So let me get this straight if you run something for 40-50 years and it is now a vacuous hell hole you bear no responsibility because an outside observer calls a spade a spade? Exactly what we would expect from a millenial SJW bitch.

[clubgop]

Put them in camps.

The best evidence I've seen yet against the concept of an fair and just god. Cause if he did exist, you would one day find yourself on the run and seeking sanctuary in a foreign land, and find yourself at the mercy of gatekeepers who could look down on you and say "go back and die, you sniveling coward, we're full and you brought this on yourself anyway, dumbass whitebread Christian."

Good post. Sadly, it's wasted rhetoric against True Believers.

Because it is ridiculous that is why. When we look back at the Old Testament you criticize that God for being angry and vengeful but when he isnt angry or vengeful enough to your liking suddenly he is not fair and just. It wasted rhetoric because we know no matter the circumstance when those with political differences from you lay supine begging for mercy that makes you happy. But when you are cowardly bitch and prayer offers no solace what more can be expected?

[SuburbanFarmer]

Not on me. I am not an elected Democrat in the inner city.

So, in summary, you have no alternative ideas, not even a vague conception of how things could be run differently, but you're absolutely convinced that Democrat are responsible.

This why you are a partisan hack bitch. You know how this game is played. But you get all Casablanca when you discover Republicans are playing the same game. Also I do have ideas and alternatives but why offer when I know you and other hack bitches wont consider them and call them racist, sexist, bigot, homophobic, transphobic. So let me get this straight if you run something for 40-50 years and it is now a vacuous hell hole you bear no responsibility because an outside observer calls a spade a spade? Exactly what we would expect from a millenial SJW bitch.

You're just here to rant against your selected SJW boogyman then. Nothing to do with me, so carry on.

BTW, one does have to question a person's motivation for sitting here and just blasting anger into a message board day after day. I suppose it's fine, so long as you don't transition to shooting kids in a clock tower...