Public School Education System Thread

[The Conservative]

"Massive cost." LULZ

Shut em down. 100% closed and auctioned off to the highest bidder.

No vouchers (I might discuss around five years of qualified vouchers to shoot capital into the market. Maybe.)

*Massive cost* A knee-slapper, at least, I'll give you that.

So then after you shut down the schools, how will the kids be educated?

There are not enough ”voucher schools” to cover the displaced children... There is an upfront cost... Don't act like there isn't.

[Speaker to Animals]

They are not being educated now.

[The Conservative]

They are not being educated now.

Mass has the top schools in the US. Don’t lump Mass into the rest of the US.

http://www.mass.gov/edu/ma-ranked-1st-i ... ation.html

[Okeefenokee]

Support is there because they see it as another choice. That's fine, but go ahead, whos paying for it to put the foundation up?

Sorry, not my paycheck.

The car analogy falls flat for another reason, cars were built by the power of the market.

Education, unless you want to corporatize it, will never come to pass without an extreme cost to the people in the forms of taxes.

You will then have to negotiate with unions, and other entities to make this possible, if at all.

You all aren't thinking this through; you are taking feel-good articles to make your point and not thinking of the how To make it possible.

I can make an argument why we should throw our nuclear waste into the sun, but it doesn't mean it's going to happen because of the massive cost to do so.

Didn't you hear me, Golem?

I said git!

[Speaker to Animals]

Despite having the best public education system in the country, literacy remains a stubborn problem in the Commonwealth: 43 percent of Massachusetts third-graders do not read at grade-level. Even more concerning is that more than 60 percent of black and Latino children are not proficiently reading by the end of third grade. The numbers are even bleaker for English language learners. The rate of students meeting the critical milestone of reading on grade level at the end of third grade has actually decreased statewide over the past five years.

https://commonwealthmagazine.org/educat ... wo-states/


Bragging about the having the best performing government school district is like bragging you have the most diseased-free whores in Juárez.

[Hastur]

Fascinating that free school choise is so hard to implement in the land of the free when we’ve had it in socialist Sweden since 1992. Single payer ftw. Like our health care.
My kids have never seen the inside of a public school and I never payed anything extra for the privilege.
I never had a choice myself when I was a kid. I was directed by the state and just had to put my sorry ass where they said.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's because of multiculturalism. Multiculturalism results in more tyranny and less freedom of action for all participants.

In the 1850s, we had no universal government schools, but literacy rates were very high compared to today.

But in the Civil War, Democrats imported a shit ton of Catholics to serve as a new Janissary class that would fight the old Janissary class that had rebelled. After the war, the Catholics began instituting parochial schools that not only better educated their kids but, more glaringly, inculcated them as good Catholics rather than Protestants.

So the Protestant majority created mandatory government schools in order to eradicate Catholic parochial schools and convert Catholic children to Protestantism.

Did not work.

Now the Marxists control the government schools and seek to do something similar to convert children to degenerates. They have some success there, but recent trends suggest it will not last.

The more diversity you have, the greater the need people feel for some common doctrinal upbringing to keep the slowly disentigrating society functional. Then that institution becomes a battleground over whose doctrine ought to be standardized.

Big shit show ensues.

[Speaker to Animals]

Even now, as we have seen for years in this forum, after a few days of arguing, it comes out that the principal motivation of the anri-school choice crowd is opposing religious schools.

It is just a culture war that only gets worse as we shit America up with increasingly more diversity.

[The Conservative]

Despite having the best public education system in the country, literacy remains a stubborn problem in the Commonwealth: 43 percent of Massachusetts third-graders do not read at grade-level. Even more concerning is that more than 60 percent of black and Latino children are not proficiently reading by the end of third grade. The numbers are even bleaker for English language learners. The rate of students meeting the critical milestone of reading on grade level at the end of third grade has actually decreased statewide over the past five years.

https://commonwealthmagazine.org/educat ... wo-states/


Bragging about the having the best performing government school district is like bragging you have the most diseased-free whores in Juárez.

Cherry picker is cherry picking.

If Mass is the best in the US, what does it say about your sorry States?

[Okeefenokee]

Fascinating that free school choise is so hard to implement in the land of the free when we’ve had it in socialist Sweden since 1992. Single payer ftw. Like our health care.
My kids have never seen the inside of a public school and I never payed anything extra for the privilege.
I never had a choice myself when I was a kid. I was directed by the state and just had to put my sorry ass where they said.

Well it isn't free. It's never going to be free.