Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

[pineapplemike]

hack? i thought podesta's emails were phished

Implying democrats understand the difference. Technically phishing is hacking in a way though so whatever. Social hacking is also a thing, anything is a hack if it achieves the end goal hence the word "hack" which back in the day literally meant "keep hacking away until something breaks."

well assuming he was phished then i would also assume that any shmuck with an internet connection and some basic coding could have been the one to acquire his emails

[clubgop]

I remember those times when you guys thought Russia didn't do anything, absolutely anything in the elections. The Seth Rich story and so on.

What do you think were the unique actions undertaken by Russia in this election as opposed to 2012?

The unique actions happened because they got people like Manafort inside Trump's campaign. I still assume that the basic reason is that Trump was so friendly to the Russians because they lent him money as after the bankruptcies of his business ventures, financing from the US dried up. Trump went along and they thought, what the hell!!! They cannot lose.

This is glorious spin. Never mind Manafort was in the campaign for about 3 months. Never mind he was specifically brought in and uniquely qualified and experience in GOP convention delegate rules and procedures. Never mind that shortly after the nomination was secured he was ousted. Nope, ignore all that "THERES RUSSIANS IN MY BORSCHT."

Never leave us, never stop, keep leading the lib down this rabbit hole because they haven't lost enough elections.

[ssu]

This is glorious spin. Never mind Manafort was in the campaign for about 3 months.

...and never mind that all that "fake news" about Manafort, why he had to leave the Trump team, has lead to indictments exaclty about the same issues.

One thing is a journalist make a newstory about Manafort, another thing to him to be indicted for exactly the same issues.

And 3 months? Seems you don't know that these guys knew each other for a far longer time through Roger Stone. Watch btw. "Get Me Roger Stone". Team Paul Manafort & Roger Stone and Trump go back a long time, actually.

Younger Stone with younger Trump

[kybkh]

I remember those times when you guys thought Russia didn't do anything, absolutely anything in the elections. The Seth Rich story and so on.

What do you think were the unique actions undertaken by Russia in this election as opposed to 2012?

The unique actions happened because they got people like Manafort inside Trump's campaign. I still assume that the basic reason is that Trump was so friendly to the Russians because they lent him money as after the bankruptcies of his business ventures, financing from the US dried up. Trump went along and they thought, what the hell!!! They cannot lose.

So what you are saying is that there has never been a high ranking member of a political campaign, who prior to the campaign, received money from a foreign nation and MAY have been sympathetic to that foreign entity’s worldview?

Do you realize how ludicrous that sounds?

Nothing here is new under the sun. That is Trump supporters biggest beef.

The Podesta Group got money for the exact same lobbying service Manafort was providing. The. Exact. Same. Service.

And if I recall properly, the co-founder of the Podesta Group was the...wait for it...Chairman of Hillary Clinton presidential campaign!!

But yeah, it’s totally unique.

[clubgop]

This is glorious spin. Never mind Manafort was in the campaign for about 3 months.

...and never mind that all that "fake news" about Manafort, why he had to leave the Trump team, has lead to indictments exaclty about the same issues.

One thing is a journalist make a newstory about Manafort, another thing to him to be indicted for exactly the same issues.

And 3 months? Seems you don't know that these guys knew each other for a far longer time through Roger Stone. Watch btw. "Get Me Roger Stone". Team Paul Manafort & Roger Stone and Trump go back a long time, actually.

Younger Stone with younger Trump

I watched that. Roger Stone has connections with everybody who is anybody for 3 decades. You want to play 6 degrees of Manafort go ahead but you exposing yourself as a hack. These charges are old and have nothing to do with the campaign and Papa Dop are process crimes exactly what you said you did not want. But now you spin this to this shit and now you ignore all the Clinton stuff. Thanks. You have double talked and exposed yourself as the hack you are. We don't have to take you seriously anymore.

[TheReal_ND]

I want to know who's payroll he's on. He's been shucking and jiving for years. God knows how much damage he's done.

[TheReal_ND]

Btw this is the part where his little Fingolian campaign fell apart at the seems. For so many years, as long as it supported the narrative that it fucks Russia, it is good. Get at me now you little bitch. Tell me again to my face how Putin manipulated my vote.

[ssu]

So what you are saying is that there has never been a high ranking member of a political campaign, who prior to the campaign, received money from a foreign nation and MAY have been sympathetic to that foreign entity’s worldview?

Do you realize how ludicrous that sounds?

Do you realize how ludicrous YOU sound with that kind of bullshit strawman.

Perhaps start By reading what I write.

I even said that the establishment would turn a blind eye if it would have been a friendly intelligence service from a country that the US has good terms. And when have I said that people in Washington don't take bribes from foreigners? Seems like you don't see the difference if an American politician has close ties to let's say to Israel and is very friendly to them and if he has ties to Russia and is very friendly to them.

Tell me again to my face how Putin manipulated my vote.

Another idiotic strawman argument.

Have I ever said that Hillary lost because of the Russians?

Fuck no. I have never believe that argument.

Hillary was such a bad candidate, that she lost to Trump. Polls were telling then that anybody else than Hillary could win Trump. I believe that.

Yet that doesn't fucking matter in the issue that Trump was totally OK to get some help from the Russians.


Seems that you have to have some politician put to the pedestal and believe in him as if he's a saint, if you hate another one, who is his opponent. Crazy idea to me.

[kybkh]

Podesta is Manafort, Manafort is Podesta.

They both lobbied for the exact same Euro Center.

[ssu]

Podesta is Manafort, Manafort is Podesta.

They both lobbied for the exact same Euro Center.

Ummm... because they are lobbyists, they lobby?

They are in it for the money, you know. I don't think that Manafort was lobbying for Mobutu Sese Seko because of ideological reasons.

Good that K-street feels at least some pressure from the Mueller probe.