I feel the same way with our government as a whole... but, what do I know...C-Mag wrote:+1The Conservative wrote:
I personally think the NSA, the CIA, FBI, and the rest of the alphabet soup have to be torn down and put back up to the roles they were designed for originally, but this time 100% data and information sharing between all agencies. There is no reason why we are seeing what we are beyond those who are willing to give up their freedoms for security.
That is where I am as well. It's time for a total reset on our Intel Community. The following is not an attempt to drag this into the political, just my opinion.
The last 16 years has made them so powerful that the Intel Community feels they are more powerful than the POTUS. A group of unelected Bureaucrats in tandem with the Gang of Eight. IMO, this group is directly challenging to future direction of the country and who holds power, the POTUS or the Intel Community.
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You have to remember that we, as a group, are WAY more informed than the average citizen. This stuff has gotten barely a mention on the mainstream. it's too big to be ignored.The Conservative wrote:Then you don't know me from a hole in the wall if you think that's true. I have so many security systems built into my network that I know when someone's knocking at my door before they even think about it. I can tell you who is roaming around outside, what type of system they are using, what OS and also if they have the latest patches installed if they have not taken precautions.GrumpyCatFace wrote:By (at a bare minimum) holding true to its own ideals. It seems that you'll be first in line to surrender your freedom for security. I will be dragged kicking and screaming.The Conservative wrote:
Only an idiot would ignore the possibility of being spied upon by their own government. Take it as a granted and you will be more truthful to yourself. It was only a matter of time that it was going to happen anyway. How else is the government meant to protect us from enemies foreign and domestic?
All the decades of the Right braying about guns, for this exact reason, but when the government does an end-around, they're silent. Unbelievable.
I have been attacked by China, by Russia, and the US... none have gotten through, and not from a lack of trying. I have their IPs and sometimes their MAC addresses if their systems are insecure while trying to hack me...
I personally think the NSA, the CIA, FBI, and the rest of the alphabet soup have to be torn down and put back up to the roles they were designed for originally, but this time 100% data and information sharing between all agencies. There is no reason why we are seeing what we are beyond those who are willing to give up their freedoms for security.
I never said that its right to do so, I said only an idiot would ignore the fact that they are... with everything that has come out as of late, you'd be a fool not to think so. There is a reason I have the stances I do, and the reasons I do what I do...
There is also a reason why I have learned how to make ghost guns as well, because I don't trust the government.
Watergate was about 1 guy recording people in his office.
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Yes, the Hashwerks Team punches above their weight class. To me, that implies a responsibility to inform others in our personal circles about where we are headed and have been.GrumpyCatFace wrote:
You have to remember that we, as a group, are WAY more informed than the average citizen. This stuff has gotten barely a mention on the mainstream. it's too big to be ignored.
Watergate was about 1 guy recording people in his office.
Compared to Watergate, the Beltway is scared to death of this thing breaking open. Because every group is knee deep in this shit, the Pachyderms, the Donkeys, the Spooks, and the Kooks (reporters).
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CIRCA does it again, they are kicking ass.
http://circa.com/politics/accountabilit ... -americans
Former U.S. intelligence contractor has sued fired FBI Director James Comey and other current and ex-government officials, alleging the bureau has covered up evidence provided to agents showing widespread illegal spying on Americans.
Docs in the article
http://circa.com/politics/accountabilit ... -americans
Former U.S. intelligence contractor has sued fired FBI Director James Comey and other current and ex-government officials, alleging the bureau has covered up evidence provided to agents showing widespread illegal spying on Americans.
Docs in the article
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Oh please let this bleed over to more than just the CIA/FBI...C-Mag wrote:CIRCA does it again, they are kicking ass.
http://circa.com/politics/accountabilit ... -americans
Former U.S. intelligence contractor has sued fired FBI Director James Comey and other current and ex-government officials, alleging the bureau has covered up evidence provided to agents showing widespread illegal spying on Americans.
Docs in the article
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Judicial Watch: Obama NSC Advisor Susan Rice’s Unmasking Material is at Obama Library
Records Sought by Judicial Watch May Remain Closed to the Public for Five Years
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today announced that the National Security Council (NSC) on May 23, 2017, informed it by letter that the materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” have been removed to the Obama Library.
The NSC will not fulfill an April 4 Judicial Watch request for records regarding information relating to people “who were identified pursuant to intelligence collection activities.”
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Shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
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That's pretty a pretty clever little Cover Up, and yes it's a Cover Up.pineapplemike wrote:nicehttp://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room ... a-library/
Judicial Watch: Obama NSC Advisor Susan Rice’s Unmasking Material is at Obama Library
Records Sought by Judicial Watch May Remain Closed to the Public for Five Years
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today announced that the National Security Council (NSC) on May 23, 2017, informed it by letter that the materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” have been removed to the Obama Library.
The NSC will not fulfill an April 4 Judicial Watch request for records regarding information relating to people “who were identified pursuant to intelligence collection activities.”
BTW, this means there are ZERO copies of any document at the NSC referring to this unmasking. That is so unlikely I wouldn't put odds on it. There are records and or emails related to this still in the agency.
So, closed to the public for 5 years. Doesn't mean government. DOJ should only have to request them.
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DOJ is busy chasing The Weed and cleansing us of homosexual propaganda to be bothered with your shit.C-Mag wrote:That's pretty a pretty clever little Cover Up, and yes it's a Cover Up.pineapplemike wrote:nicehttp://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room ... a-library/
Judicial Watch: Obama NSC Advisor Susan Rice’s Unmasking Material is at Obama Library
Records Sought by Judicial Watch May Remain Closed to the Public for Five Years
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today announced that the National Security Council (NSC) on May 23, 2017, informed it by letter that the materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” have been removed to the Obama Library.
The NSC will not fulfill an April 4 Judicial Watch request for records regarding information relating to people “who were identified pursuant to intelligence collection activities.”
BTW, this means there are ZERO copies of any document at the NSC referring to this unmasking. That is so unlikely I wouldn't put odds on it. There are records and or emails related to this still in the agency.
So, closed to the public for 5 years. Doesn't mean government. DOJ should only have to request them.
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:DOJ is busy chasing The Weed and cleansing us of homosexual propaganda to be bothered with your shit.C-Mag wrote:That's pretty a pretty clever little Cover Up, and yes it's a Cover Up.pineapplemike wrote:
nice
BTW, this means there are ZERO copies of any document at the NSC referring to this unmasking. That is so unlikely I wouldn't put odds on it. There are records and or emails related to this still in the agency.
So, closed to the public for 5 years. Doesn't mean government. DOJ should only have to request them.
You're not really cleansing anything until you're throwing fags off the roof.
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