JohnDonne wrote:Hard to dispute that some homeless people are simply not hireable. They would actually hinder productivity. Reasons include disability, mental and physical.
So right there, for those people, if you want a job, you can't get a job.
Another group can get a job, but can't keep them very long. Reasons include addiction, personality disorders, mild mental illness.
Maybe they can get help through counseling and medication, they'd need the resources and the motivation. The initial problems may affect the motivation though.
I'm sure upbringing has a huge effect on whether people in the second group succeed or not. But a person doesn't control their upbringing.
So the reality is it's not simply a question of job availability, nor is it some stupid blame the rich, or blame the lazy poor dichotomy. It might be an issue without a group or entity to blame.
A good society should take care of its disabled and mentally infirmed, and even the hardliners of the forum would agree that they need assistance. I don't think that's who is mostly being referenced here. I would also reckon that most people on the forum have some relation to drug addicts or experience with them. They aren't all just mentally ill, not in the sense that they are incapable of work, so its not like everyone is just talking out of their ass. A lot of people move to the west coast, specifically to be homeless and shoot dope, that's a fact. And its not fair that children have to deal with their mess. I don't care if you do drugs, just knock of the discarding of damn diseased needles everywhere. It doesn't matter if society doesn't provide them with needle trash cans, until they decide to do so, its up to them to not throw them in the grass in public parks. I wouldn't lock anyone up for drugs, but leaving needles around is unacceptable.
Speaker to Animals wrote:It amuses me how people forget the government cooks these reports as a general rule whenever the report confirms their ideological biases.
Exactly
The hid from us self defensive gun use stats for years, unemployment and inflation numbers have been massaged for decades.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
If it's the last thing I do this week, you'll pay for this!
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
