American's living Paycheck to Paycheck

[The Conservative]

When I was young in the 1980's, I used to wonder what the future would be like, but turns out, it's just a big revival of the 1980's, forever and ever and ever, the rise of the internet, stopped the culture where it was, and its just been sitting there ever since.

That's more true than I think you realize.

[Viktorthepirate]

Manufacturing? Isn't manufacturing going to be taken over by automation soon-ish?

So you're saying there is an entry level position earning 100k+

I'll buy the plane ticket, where am I headed?

lol I got into this whole automation thing in another thread. It's a bit overblown. At least in the near future. Who knows what 50 years will look like though.

My specific niche is environmental and safety stuff. Dust collectors, hex chrome, explosive dusts, stuff like that.

Need a basic grasp of Algebra, and the ability to learn the rest. Just about every company in my field is looking very hard. I could PM you a couple companies who are looking. If you have any engineering background you're pretty much guaranteed a job. Non engineering background... they'll interview you to make sure you're smart enough to figure the stuff out and then hire you.

Sure, I would appreciate that.

Sent.

[DBTrek]

Instead y'all are mad about inflation rates vs. wage stagnation.


Try looking forward, not backward. You'll get further that way.

What has talking about inflation to do with the fact that technology has advanced and is advancing?

Yep, they have in Greece all those gizmos too.

We used to have a lot of farmers.
Farmers owned lots of land and grew lots of food, man.
Now we don't.
Boo-hoo.

We used to have a lot of manufacturing jobs.
People did brainless bullshit on unionized assembly lines and lived well.
Now we don't.
Boo-hoo.

Today we have technology jobs.
We can be our own boss, cut deals with Chinese factories that used to only be open to global corps, mass market over the internet, innovate apps people pay big bucks for, star in our own internet TV shows, etc, etc, etc.
But people would rather bitch about not living like assembly-line schlubs.
Boo-hoo.

That's the connection.
It's all about lazy people preferring to leverage the power of government to give them what they think their parents had instead of leveraging their current advantages to achieve the lifestyle they want.

[Okeefenokee]

plus those factories were lousy with asbestos.

[Viktorthepirate]

Instead y'all are mad about inflation rates vs. wage stagnation.


Try looking forward, not backward. You'll get further that way.

What has talking about inflation to do with the fact that technology has advanced and is advancing?

Yep, they have in Greece all those gizmos too.

We used to have a lot of farmers.
Farmers owned lots of land and grew lots of food, man.
Now we don't.
Boo-hoo.

We used to have a lot of manufacturing jobs.
People did brainless bullshit on unionized assembly lines and lived well.
Now we don't.
Boo-hoo.

Today we have technology jobs.
We can be our own boss, cut deals with Chinese factories that used to only be open to global corps, mass market over the internet, innovate apps people pay big bucks for, star in our own internet TV shows, etc, etc, etc.
But people would rather bitch about not living like assembly-line schlubs.
Boo-hoo.

That's the connection.
It's all about lazy people preferring to leverage the power of government to give them what they think their parents had instead of leveraging their current advantages to achieve the lifestyle they want.

Well that's a bit of an oversimplification.

The problem we have now is that overall productivity has shot through the roof but wages have not increased accordingly. Minimum wage is the easiest way to measure.

We are the most productive we have ever been but we don't get paid like we are. The owners of the capital are certainly benefiting however.

[DBTrek]

Well that's a bit of an oversimplification.

The problem we have now is that overall productivity has shot through the roof but wages have not increased accordingly. Minimum wage is the easiest way to measure.

Whose productivity has shot through the roof?
Has the minimum wage worker's productivity shot through the roof?
No?

Hmmmmm . . . might be why they aren't reaping the returns.

My advice, don't be a minimum wage worker.
Leverage your advantages for yourself or find a better gig.

[SilverEagle]

What has talking about inflation to do with the fact that technology has advanced and is advancing?

Yep, they have in Greece all those gizmos too.

We used to have a lot of farmers.
Farmers owned lots of land and grew lots of food, man.
Now we don't.
Boo-hoo.

We used to have a lot of manufacturing jobs.
People did brainless bullshit on unionized assembly lines and lived well.
Now we don't.
Boo-hoo.

Today we have technology jobs.
We can be our own boss, cut deals with Chinese factories that used to only be open to global corps, mass market over the internet, innovate apps people pay big bucks for, star in our own internet TV shows, etc, etc, etc.
But people would rather bitch about not living like assembly-line schlubs.
Boo-hoo.

That's the connection.
It's all about lazy people preferring to leverage the power of government to give them what they think their parents had instead of leveraging their current advantages to achieve the lifestyle they want.

Well that's a bit of an oversimplification.

The problem we have now is that overall productivity has shot through the roof but wages have not increased accordingly. Minimum wage is the easiest way to measure.

We are the most productive we have ever been but we don't get paid like we are. The owners of the capital are certainly benefiting however.

There is the truth bomb!

[Smitty-48]

When I was young in the 1980's, I used to wonder what the future would be like, but turns out, it's just a big revival of the 1980's, forever and ever and ever, the rise of the internet, stopped the culture where it was, and its just been sitting there ever since.

That's more true than I think you realize.

What's more to realize? It is what it is, it's not subtle, it's not particularly complex neither, in fact, back at the end of the 1980's, people were starting to say that this was going to happen, and it's not like I didn't believe them, but there was nothing I could do about it, so nothing worth worrying about, as, compared to Cold War nuclear anihiliation, sounded like a pretty good outcome in the end.

And, I enjoyed the 1980's, and now that I'm here in the future, it's like the 1980's, except now I have money and cushy lifestyle as compared to then, so, good times, actually.

[Viktorthepirate]

Well that's a bit of an oversimplification.

The problem we have now is that overall productivity has shot through the roof but wages have not increased accordingly. Minimum wage is the easiest way to measure.

Whose productivity has shot through the roof?
Has the minimum wage worker's productivity shot through the roof?
No?

Hmmmmm . . . might be why they aren't reaping the returns.

My advice, don't be a minimum wage worker.
Leverage your advantages for yourself or find a better gig.

I was using minimum wage as a yardstick. The problem is across all incomes for the most part.

And in some cases yes, minimum wage workers have drastically increased productivity as well. Depends on what time frame you are talking about.

Look at McDonalds.

[DBTrek]

I was using minimum wage as a yardstick. The problem is across all incomes for the most part.

And in some cases yes, minimum wage workers have drastically increased productivity as well. Depends on what time frame you are talking about.

Look at McDonalds.

What about McDonalds?
Did dropping a fry basket in oil become considerably more complex, demanding the talents of a more highly skilled worker lately?