Who Killed the Left?

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Re: Who Killed the Left?

Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:56 pm

Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:I don't think it stems from the differences in generations. I just think it's more strongly correlated to the boomer/millennial line. It was in the 1960s that this stuff really made its way into our culture, infecting the boomers most potently. It's no wonder that the children of boomers (millennials) are also more susceptible to it.

Plenty of people in Gen X have fallen for it too. It's not that it comes from the boomers in particular. It's just more prevalent there.

And when it comes to running the parties.. yeah.. you have to realize that boomers and millennials together are a huge demographic force that will only really be overcome when boomers die and Gen X/Gen Z are able to establish their own stranglehold (probably over the GOP, but lots of other possibilities exist).

I look at this from different dimensions too. It's urban versus rural as much as generational. In so many metrics, our nation is sort of dividing like a cell.
This stuff? What would that be?
how sure are we that hwen is not a bot? a pretty impressive bot, sure, but I've been getting suspicious.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.

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Re: Who Killed the Left?

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:58 pm

I agree with that suspicion. I'm still on the side of human but he's got the attributes...
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Re: Who Killed the Left?

Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:59 pm

apeman wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:I received an email from the CCDCC (Clark County Democrats Campaign Committee) that significantly narrowed the options of Democrats, at least locally where I live. I have actually heard local Progressives use the acronym DINO, and now that seems to imply Democrats who are not Progressives. The following was my response:

To whom it may concern;

I'm a Democrat, in fact, I have been a State Democratic candidate, and will be again. However, I am unclear when Democrats adopted "ensuring a progressive future" as part of the Party Platform. If someone there could help point me to this plank, I would like to review what that means for me since progressivism in the modern sense is Collectivism, and not all Democrats are Progressives, for example, I'm a Liberal.

Sincerely,
Martin Hash
The CCDCC will understand approximately 40% of your letter.
:lol:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.

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Re: Who Killed the Left?

Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:06 pm

Martin Hash wrote:Is there anyone else in the world who thinks Libertarians are closet Democrats?
yes.

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.

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Re: Who Killed the Left?

Post by Fife » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:23 am

What a maroon.

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Re: Who Killed the Left?

Post by BjornP » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:39 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Now's the time, Martin. You wanna be famous?

Forge an alliance with the Libertarians. Split off and inspire a third party. Change American politics, and the world, and be a national hero.
We'll definitely be gulaging the purveyors of scorn & ridicule. I've got your IP, I think we can track you down from there.
I'm not making fun, I'm semi-serious. I see an opportunity for the newly-dubbed DINOs (liberals) to separate from the big D, and merge with the Libertarians being blocked out of the big R. Perhaps attract a number of RINOs as well.

You can't do shit with an IP address :lol: I'll send you my physical address, if you want. Come and get me.
Why would it make more sense for Hash to start a new party based on the ideals of the old Democrat party? The progressives taking over his party are surely the ones that ought to be pushed out to be form a new, third party.
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Re: Who Killed the Left?

Post by clubgop » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:57 am

BjornP wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Martin Hash wrote: We'll definitely be gulaging the purveyors of scorn & ridicule. I've got your IP, I think we can track you down from there.
I'm not making fun, I'm semi-serious. I see an opportunity for the newly-dubbed DINOs (liberals) to separate from the big D, and merge with the Libertarians being blocked out of the big R. Perhaps attract a number of RINOs as well.

You can't do shit with an IP address :lol: I'll send you my physical address, if you want. Come and get me.
Why would it make more sense for Hash to start a new party based on the ideals of the old Democrat party? The progressives taking over his party are surely the ones that ought to be pushed out to be form a new, third party.
Because GCF is a lazy bitch too embarrassed to call himself democrat but doesnt want to do any work, which makes him that much more of a democrat.

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Re: Who Killed the Left?

Post by tue4t » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:07 am

This isn't a problem specific to the left, although the left is currently suffering from it quite badly. It's all the tax payer subsidised relativist quackery spreading around in social bubbles like a virus and hollowing out the places where people would otherwise have some set of first principles. Kinda like how HIV targets white blood cells and causes AIDS.

The "right" can also catch it, authoritarian national socialism being one of the symptoms.

I don't want to blame it solely on the "new atheist" movement, but they kinda contributed to this problem by smashing down somewhat functional frameworks of religious morality and then leaving a wake of destruction without building the house back up again properly. The old evangelicals are somewhat to blame too for aggravating that response by getting authoritarian and entering into the political space.

As Nietzche thought, the people riding the atheist bandwagon would have to subsequently create their own values. Many found themselves drifting out at sea and desperately clambered onto the nearest lifeboat, which unfortunately happened to be authoritarian neomarxism even though it's like dilapidated, full of holes, and half full of water. What's funny is that behaviorally, these people basically became the very same archetypal image they were fighting against in the first place: secular ultra christians with "compassion for the downtrodden" on steroid.

This guy puts it nicely with his analogy of mosquitos and stagnant water.



Also really like Jordan Peterson's diagnosis and prescription: rescue your father i.e. resdiscover and reinvigorate your cultural heritage. In the case of the west, this being the enlightenment values of individualism, natural rights etc.

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Re: Who Killed the Left?

Post by apeman » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:18 am

tue4t wrote:This isn't a problem specific to the left, although the left is currently suffering from it quite badly. It's all the tax payer subsidised relativist quackery spreading around in social bubbles like a virus and hollowing out the places where people would otherwise have some set of first principles. Kinda like how HIV targets white blood cells and causes AIDS.

The "right" can also catch it, authoritarian national socialism being one of the symptoms.

I don't want to blame it solely on the "new atheist" movement, but they kinda contributed to this problem by smashing down somewhat functional frameworks of religious morality and then leaving a wake of destruction without building the house back up again properly. The old evangelicals are somewhat to blame too for aggravating that response by getting authoritarian and entering into the political space.

As Nietzche thought, the people riding the atheist bandwagon would have to subsequently create their own values. Many found themselves drifting out at sea and desperately clambered onto the nearest lifeboat, which unfortunately happened to be authoritarian neomarxism even though it's like dilapidated, full of holes, and half full of water. What's funny is that behaviorally, these people basically became the very same archetypal image they were fighting against in the first place: secular ultra christians with "compassion for the downtrodden" on steroid.

This guy puts it nicely with his analogy of mosquitos and stagnant water.



Also really like Jordan Peterson's diagnosis and prescription: rescue your father i.e. resdiscover and reinvigorate your cultural heritage. In the case of the west, this being the enlightenment values of individualism, natural rights etc.
Didn't watch the video, but great post

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Re: Who Killed the Left?

Post by Hwen Hoshino » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:34 am

tue4t wrote:This isn't a problem specific to the left, although the left is currently suffering from it quite badly. It's all the tax payer subsidised relativist quackery spreading around in social bubbles like a virus and hollowing out the places where people would otherwise have some set of first principles. Kinda like how HIV targets white blood cells and causes AIDS.

The "right" can also catch it, authoritarian national socialism being one of the symptoms.

I don't want to blame it solely on the "new atheist" movement, but they kinda contributed to this problem by smashing down somewhat functional frameworks of religious morality and then leaving a wake of destruction without building the house back up again properly. The old evangelicals are somewhat to blame too for aggravating that response by getting authoritarian and entering into the political space.

As Nietzche thought, the people riding the atheist bandwagon would have to subsequently create their own values. Many found themselves drifting out at sea and desperately clambered onto the nearest lifeboat, which unfortunately happened to be authoritarian neomarxism even though it's like dilapidated, full of holes, and half full of water. What's funny is that behaviorally, these people basically became the very same archetypal image they were fighting against in the first place: secular ultra christians with "compassion for the downtrodden" on steroid.

This guy puts it nicely with his analogy of mosquitos and stagnant water.



Also really like Jordan Peterson's diagnosis and prescription: rescue your father i.e. resdiscover and reinvigorate your cultural heritage. In the case of the west, this being the enlightenment values of individualism, natural rights etc.
When were evanghelicals not in the political space? Dictating when you mate and with whom is not a nothingburger.