PARCEL #102 LONDON TUBING EDITION

[heydaralon]

Also, just looking at maps the Islands were significantly bigger than I thought. I don't really know much about the conflict, but it has it all. Sea battles, special forces, air raids, all the good shit. They should make a miniseries about the falklands.

[Smitty-48]

Also, just looking at maps the Islands were significantly bigger than I thought.

The war was fought almost entirely in around and on East Falkland, from Falkland Sound to Stanley, other than naval and air actions out of the main battle area. Nothing much going down on West Falkland nor Lafonia, the British came down from the north, drove the Argentine fleet from the seas, cleared the route into Falkland Sound, then landed at San Carlos under intense air attack, before marching from there across East Falkland, by way of Goose Green/Darwin, reinforcements arriving at Fitzroy, bombed tragically at the landings there, before a series of mountain top night attacks to surround the Argentines by driving them back into Stanley, Argentine capitulation upon situation hopeless.

/Falkland Islands War in a nutshell

[Smitty-48]

I don't really know much about the conflict, but it has it all. Sea battles, special forces, air raids, all the good shit. They should make a miniseries about the falklands.

Indeed, feat of arms wise, it had absolutely everything, all in classic fashion, just on a very compact scale, and was fought about as gentlemanly as any war could possibly be, on both sides.

[Montegriffo]

Maggie Thatcher went after certain unions, the coal miners most famously, but she didn't go after the warship builders, she built a lot of warships after all.

Hmmmm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Defence_White_Paper

The 1981 Defence White Paper (titled "The UK Defence Programme: The Way Forward" Cm 8288) was a major review of the United Kingdom's defence policy brought about by the Conservative government under the Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. The main author was the then Secretary of State for Defence, John Nott. The aim of the review was to reduce expenditure during the early 1980s recession and to focus on supporting NATO rather than out of area operations. It was ultimately judged however to have been extremely detrimental to the Defence of the Realm, being among other things widely considered to have been one of the contributing factors that led to the outbreak of the Falklands War.

This review proposed extensive cuts to the Royal Navy, including the sale of the new aircraft carrier Invincible to Australia. Under the review, the Royal Navy was focused primarily on anti-submarine warfare under the auspices of NATO. Any out-of-area amphibious operations were considered unlikely. The entire Royal Marine amphibious force was in jeopardy of being disbanded and the sale of Intrepid and Fearless was mooted.[2] Although an additional Type 22 frigate was confirmed ordered, Nott stated that nine of the navy's 59 escorts would be decommissioned, mainly from the County, Leander, and Rothesay classes. This decision was attributed to the growing cost of refitting and maintaining older warships. Alongside the proposed hull cuts, Nott revealed that the navy would incur a manpower reduction of between 8,000 and 10,000 people.[1]

Nott announced an order for five nuclear-powered attack submarines, increasing the total to 17. The Royal Navy's building programme of 20 warships was to be unaffected by the cuts, as would the navy's acquisition of the Trident submarine-launched ballistic missile.[1]

The ice patrol ship Endurance was also due to be withdrawn from the South Atlantic. This was interpreted as a sign of weakness by the Argentine Government, encouraging the invasion of the Falkland Islands. Chatham Dockyard was also to be closed as an operational base. Feasibility studies for the Type 43 and Type 44 destroyers were also cancelled, together with the Sea Dart MkII surface-to-air missile.

[Montegriffo]

The milk snatcher was what we would today call a ''globalist''
shipbuilding....too expensive we can get much cheaper ships from Asia, mainly Korea and Japan.
Coal......too expensive we'll get that from China.
Steel....too expensive we'll get that from China as well.
manufacturing......not profitable we'll buy cheaper from Asia

Her proud axiom ''there is no alternative to global capitalism'' summed it up.

Under Maggie Britain stopped making things and concentrated on international banking which led to a boom time for the elite and put millions of others on the dole.
Now Brexit threatens Britain's place as the centre of European and world banking.

[Montegriffo]

I read an article by a cynical historian years ago that said that both Thatcher and the Junta were basically using the war to move attention away from their less than ideal domestic situations.

Yep, sums it up pretty well.

[Smitty-48]

lol. Oh look, here come a British Lefty to rant and rave about Maggie Thatcher, that's the other thing you gotta love about her, just the way she stuck it to the British Lefties, and is still even trolling them now, from beyond the grave.

Trump ain't got nothing on Maggie Thatcher, when it comes to inciting Lefty butt hurt derangement syndrome.

[Montegriffo]

[Smitty-48]

Well, the war did indeed save the military from massive cutbacks, Thatcher came in a fiscal hawk, but the war changed her direction on that at the last moment, and instead she went after Lefty sacred cow social programs, which is how it should be, defense of the realm is the principle purpose of a government, handing out milk is not.

And the victory in the war did indeed win the election for Thatcher, much to the Lefties chagrin, and then Thacher did indeed dispense with the nonsense that somehow Britain was going to be able to continue being a unionized protected manufacturing hub, after the Lefties had gotten rid of the British Empire and the world was globalizing by default, which, obviously not, so Thatcher was ahead of her time there.

So, all worked out in the end, what of it?

The truth? The truth is the Labour Party had simply run the country into the gound because they were so beholden to the unionized entrenched interests, and Thatcher had no choice but to come in and dispense the harsh medicine, this is how it always is with the Left, they run the country into the gorund, then when the people put the Right in charge to clean up the mess, the Lefties spend the next forty years claiming that it was "literally Hitler" or whatever.

How the Brexit is supposedly Thatcher's fault, I don't get, just mo Lefty blame Thacherism it seems, because Euroskeptic as she was, she wasn't that skeptic, she never would have held a referendum, nor go for any sort of hard Brexit, and she would crushed Nigel Farage like a bug, she wasn't anything like UKIP, that's not the result of Thatcher, that's John Major and Tony Blair who caused the UKIP backlash, and weak kneed David Cameron who couldn't stand up to it.

You wouldn't even have a UKIP and NIgel Farage if you had Thatcher, UKIP and Farage simply filled the void left by the post Thatcher Tories, when they basically turned themselves into a Liberal party, leaving the entire Right flank of the country wide open to whomever rabble rousers come along.

Reality was, Farage was mostly channeling Thatcher, the hard right populist vacuum had to be filled by someone eventually. Just wait if Jeremy Corbyn starts running things, good lord, after a few years of that, then you'll really see right wing populist backlash, could get UKIP style government out of that.

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