Proper Procedure for Fighting?

[Smitty-48]

Jamaicans are hotheats too, they're ultra macho, no diss can go unanswered, they will draw down, just over face, never mind the drug trade.

Then you get internecine between the Jamaicans and the other West Indians, there's huge rivaleries between the Jamaicans and the other Islands, and you have a back and forth flow, between Toronto and the West Indies, the same Posse's operate in both places at once.

So while you do have Asian gangs, they don't have the same internecine vectors which lead to as much explosive violence. Say what you want about jamaicans, but they are nothing, if not hardcore, you don't cross them, unless you're ready to go all the way.

Like, the Caribana carnival in Toronto, that was practically a shootout or two, guarunteed, where even a car backfiring, will send the crowds stampeding for cover.

Mind you, I did meet Shaquille O'Neal there once, just walking through the crowd, so that was cool.

[heydaralon]

Jamaicans are hotheats too, they're ultra macho, no diss can go unanswered, they will draw down, just over face, never mind the drug trade.

Then you get internecine between the Jamaicans and the other West Indians, there's huge rivaleries between the Jamaicans and the other rivalries, and you have a back and forth flow, between Toronto and the West Indies, the same Posse's operate in both places at once.

My buddy's family lived in Jamaica. They are white, but they kind of have that accent. His whole family left, because of the crime. I have often wondered where that stereotype about them being chill weed smokers comes from. It doesn't seem to jive with reality. Also, I was under the impression that Canada had fairly strict gun laws. What is the penalty for getting caught with a handgun?

[Smitty-48]

Jamaicans are hotheats too, they're ultra macho, no diss can go unanswered, they will draw down, just over face, never mind the drug trade.

Then you get internecine between the Jamaicans and the other West Indians, there's huge rivaleries between the Jamaicans and the other rivalries, and you have a back and forth flow, between Toronto and the West Indies, the same Posse's operate in both places at once.

My buddy's family lived in Jamaica. They are white, but they kind of have that accent. His whole family left, because of the crime. I have often wondered where that stereotype about them being chill weed smokers comes from. It doesn't seem to jive with reality. Also, I was under the impression that Canada had fairly strict gun laws. What is the penalty for getting caught with a handgun?

The Rastafarians are a sub group of Jamaicans, a religious sect, but most Jamaicans are not Rastafarians, most of them are hardcore God fearing church going Christians actually.

As for the gun, depends on the circumstances, illegal handgun can be serious, but nothing that would ever deter a gang member, there was a two year minimum setence for any gun offence for awhile, but the courts actually threw it out as unconstitutional, "cruel and unusual", so now it just depends, depends what the judge says upon conviction.

[heydaralon]

Jamaicans are hotheats too, they're ultra macho, no diss can go unanswered, they will draw down, just over face, never mind the drug trade.

Then you get internecine between the Jamaicans and the other West Indians, there's huge rivaleries between the Jamaicans and the other rivalries, and you have a back and forth flow, between Toronto and the West Indies, the same Posse's operate in both places at once.

My buddy's family lived in Jamaica. They are white, but they kind of have that accent. His whole family left, because of the crime. I have often wondered where that stereotype about them being chill weed smokers comes from. It doesn't seem to jive with reality. Also, I was under the impression that Canada had fairly strict gun laws. What is the penalty for getting caught with a handgun?

The Rastafarians are a sub group of Jamaicans, a religious sect, but most Jamaicans are not Rastafarians, most of them are hardcore God fearing church going Christians actually.

As for the gun, depends on the circumstances, illegal handgun can be serious, but nothing that would ever deter a gang member, there was a two year minimum setence for any gun offence for awile, but the courts actually through it out as unconstitutional, "cruel and unusual", so now it just depends, depends what the judge says upon conviction.

The Rastafarians are fucking weird. They worshipped Emperor Haile Selasie as a god. I don't get how that religion still has any followers, since Selasie was killed by Mengistu and buried under a fucking outhouse in the 70's.

So you can legally own a handgun in Toronto? What about an AR-15? I've never actually talked to a Canadian about gun policy in their country so I don't know.

[Smitty-48]

So you can legally own a handgun in Toronto? What about an AR-15? I've never actually talked to a Canadian about gun policy in their country so I don't know.

Yeah, but you require the Restricted Class Firearms Acquistion Certificate, you have to jump through a bunch of hoops, take some courses, have the correct storage infrastructure, but can be done.

None of the guns up in Jane & Finch are this mind you, all those guns are illegal of course, smuggled in from the USA, or stolen. None the less, they have it all, a lot of handguns and AK's

[heydaralon]

So you can legally own a handgun in Toronto? What about an AR-15? I've never actually talked to a Canadian about gun policy in their country so I don't know.

Yeah, but you require the Restricted Class Firearms Acquistion Certificate, you have to jump through a bunch of hoops, take some courses, have the correct storage infrastructure, but can be done.

Are non gang member Canadians really into guns, or is that just an American thing?

[Smitty-48]

So you can legally own a handgun in Toronto? What about an AR-15? I've never actually talked to a Canadian about gun policy in their country so I don't know.

Yeah, but you require the Restricted Class Firearms Acquistion Certificate, you have to jump through a bunch of hoops, take some courses, have the correct storage infrastructure, but can be done.

Are non gang member Canadians really into guns, or is that just an American thing?

Oh, there are Canadian gun nuts, fer sure, lots of them, mostly rural though, not a big thing in Toronto.

[Smitty-48]

The old guy I bought this house off of was a gun nut, mostly shotguns and bolts, but he had an AR.

I mean, I guess I'm an old guy now too, but not that old, it was an older couple, looking to move further up north, but they were outdoorsy, ATVs, snowmobiles, guns, the whole shebang.

The further you go from the city, the more gun nuts there are, when you get up north, everybody's a gun nut.

[Smitty-48]

The main difference between American gun nuts and Canadian gun nuts is that most Canadian gun nuts support "privilege not a right", they want less draconian gun control, more sensible gun control, but the overwhelming majority support gun control none the less.

The main issue in Canada is that the urban liberal establishment is out to achieve de facto prohibition by overregulation, just make it such a burden to own a gun that it deters people from even bothering, the Canadian gun nuts fight the good fight against this repressive regime, but they're not seeking a First Amendment paradigm, which, I know, Americans will say "without the First Amendment this is what will happen", but the culture here is the culture here, and the culture here, is not actually republican, and certainly not revolutionary republican, quite the opposite.

Even if Canadians don't conciously think about it, Canadian culture is Loyalist, and specifically Victorian Loyalist, right down in the bones.

[heydaralon]

We like to help out our neighbors when it comes to guns. I know the cartels in Mexico get a lot of their firepower from the United States, so I guess North and South guns flow from the US.