THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T GIVE A FUCK!!!

[Martin Hash]

Dude, that's only because you don't understand the fiscal side. That's okay, I'll teach you. Welcome to the Liberalist ranks.

[doc_loliday]

You gotta work hard, depend on your family and personal resources, but if the worst comes, the state should be there to help. Said every liberal in California.

I'm tellin you, great weather, hot chicks, plenty of ganj to smoke...

[Ph64]

You gotta work hard, depend on your family and personal resources, but if the worst comes, the state should be there to help. Said every liberal in California.

I'm tellin you, great weather, hot chicks, plenty of ganj to smoke...

And then you've spent so much time stoned you can't hold a job, the hot chicks don't want you because you can't afford their boob jobs and plastic surgeries... ...but not to worry, the weather is great even homeless on that bench, and the state will take care of you by taxing all those other people to death until they leave...

[SuburbanFarmer]

Protesting is effective, only in its shock value. When there's too many fucked up things to protest, and people aren't allowed to even witness the event through our media, it's cut off completely from any utility.

Basically, unless a stoner decides to light himself on fire in the middle of rush hour, nothing will change. 'We the People' is meaningless. Just pay your taxes, and ZOMG DON"T FUCKING SMOKE AROUND CIVILIZATION!

[StCapps]

You gotta work hard, depend on your family and personal resources, but if the worst comes, the state should be there to help. Said every liberal in California.

I'm tellin you, great weather, hot chicks, plenty of ganj to smoke...

And then you've spent so much time stoned you can't hold a job, the hot chicks don't want you because you can't afford their boob jobs and plastic surgeries... ...but not to worry, the weather is great even homeless on that bench, and the state will take care of you by taxing all those other people to death until they leave...

I like the new guys style. Only 17 posts in, but the quality is apparent right out of the gate.

[doc_loliday]

Is anyone really new? I always figured everyone was from the DCF.

[StCapps]

Is anyone really new? I always figured everyone was from the DCF.

Lurkers who didn't post on the DCF don't count. Several of them have joined and never got around to posting on the DCF, that's new to me.

[Martin Hash]

There's some new New that haven't posted yet.

[jbird4049]

Huh. What's this about 3/5 of a vote. Whoever got one of those?

He might be referring to the 3/5 clause in the Constitution which states slaves only count as 3/5 of a person for determining how many Representatives a state got. The more people counted, the more power a state got in the Federal government.

Those slaves sure were lucky that their masters only got 3/5ths extra representation per slave in their state. The owners would've had an even further unfair representation in the federal government if the slaves were counted fully towards the population of those states.

That's why the 3/5 clause was introduced. The slave States wanted the extra power and the free States had to compromise to get the required majority of states needed to pass the Constitution.

[TheOneX]

Everyday I wake up an wonder what America would be like without California.

It would be a lot more sensible, and a lot less extreme.

A lot poorer too.

Unlikely, California benefits way more from free trade with the rest of the states than the other way around. Yeah, California is the biggest dog in the pack, but it is still only 1 of 50. Most of what California produces are luxury items. California doesn't produce coal, it doesn't produce oil, it has a single car plant. If California broke off from the US without a good trade agreement, its economy would collapse almost immediately.

Anyone who thinks California leaving would significantly hurt the US economy does not understand the economics of the situation. Sure you would see recession, but it would recover. Most businesses and individuals would find themselves with more economic freedom with fewer regulations to follow.