Cultural Effects of Loss of Labor

[apeman]

*legally

preferred pronoun ze, zir and hir please

Damn fine lawyering there, nuke, damn fine.

[BjornP]

We don't take references very seriously at all

You can be sued for giving a bad reference, doesn't mean the plaintiff will win, but when you get sued, you pay $$$ for an attorney, so you lose regardless.

Best way to give a negative reference:

"I can't not recommend him/her"

Ok. I think I can see how writing and reading references wouldn't matter so much. Although, if it's legal requirement that they be positive, I imagine there are some great, sarcastic or passive-aggressive ones out there, skirting the legal requirements.

[TheReal_ND]

References can be important. It's mainly to show work history though. Not about how good an employee you were. I've had a couple jobs that required prior references. It can be a bitch to wrangle them down via email.

[SuburbanFarmer]

We don't take references very seriously at all

You can be sued for giving a bad reference, doesn't mean the plaintiff will win, but when you get sued, you pay $$$ for an attorney, so you lose regardless.

Best way to give a negative reference:

"I can't not recommend him/her"

Uh wut? Never heard of this...

Sued for what, exactly?? I provide a name and number of someone that will vouch for my character, and if they choose not to, then I've done something wrong?

[Martin Hash]

A reference giver can be sued if an applicant is turned down due to a bad reference. For example, the interviewer says, "I would have given you the job except your previous employer was unflattering."

Don't give references.

[TheReal_ND]

Yeah but you also have to consider the fact that staffing agencies won't take a risk putting someone in a upper tier customer's job without references.

[Martin Hash]

For $500, I'll write a great reference. In fact, for $1000, you write the reference, I'll sign it. Hell, sock-puppet a reference & send via an anonymous account.

References are such bullshit.

p.s. It's a world of Who-You-Know.

[TheReal_ND]

@uss.com accounts aren't cheap.

[SuburbanFarmer]

A reference giver can be sued if an applicant is turned down due to a bad reference. For example, the interviewer says, "I would have given you the job except your previous employer was unflattering."

Don't give references.

So this applies for temp agencies then?? I guess you could make some ridiculous case that the agency has a defective product (you)?

[apeman]

I don't know the precise particulars of the law nor do I particularly care, just sharing a piece of "wisdom" I picked up. I could not be more against such stupid law.