Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[C-Mag]

The great thing about Climate Change Theology is that if you have enough money, you can buy Indulgences in the way of offsetting Carbon Credits. This will absolve you of Climate Crimes. In ways like this a guy like Harrison Ford can have a fleet of airplanes to fly to his multiple vacation properties that are heated and cooled year round with no one living in them.

It's a tidy little arrangement, the late medieval Catholic Church would be jealous.

[Speaker to Animals]

Team Censor the Data is acting every bit as dishonest as the Climate Change Theologians here.

[nmoore63]

I have supreme confidence that both the Red Team and the Blue Team will co-opt a government carbon footprint label requirement.

To be clear, there is no censorship involved.

Any manufacturer is allowed to put carbon footprint data on their product if they so desire.

[DBTrek]

Team Censor the Data is acting every bit as dishonest as the Climate Change Theologians here.

You have to produce data before it can be censored.
US Government can't even link to the assumptions about their data, much less the actual data.

And yet you're a full-on zealot for the state sponsored, Mega-corporate approved, boondoggle. As usual you require no facts, just emotion to drive you forward. Rail about how we're all liars, fools, and degenerates for a few pages - that's always a treat.

[Fife]

I'm in favor of any and kinds of labeling the mind can imagine. Anything truthful goes. Carbon footprint; corporate social scoring; LGBT++ friendliness; LGBT++ hatred; you name it, and I'm up for it.

I simply want labeling to be a voluntary activity; not a compulsory activity.

If consumers care about labeling (and under the right circumstances in some cases, they clearly do), then labeling there shall be.

I personally would like to see an industry of competing firms emerge who offer labeling services to producers for the use and benefit of their customers. The cream would come to the top pretty effectively, IMNSHO.

Note that (unlike labeling controlled by the state and its owners), private labeling would be subject to every fraud and consumer protection law on the books as well. Consumers would know if a rating was truly independent, or just some Wallyworld made up POS fiction. Consumers could also place value on the quality and meaningfulness of the rating. None of that would be true with regard to USDA, &c., mandated ratings. The exact opposite would obtain.

Firms that produce things in ways that are of importance to customers will flourish; firms that ignore what customers care about will go out of business.

I love labels and MORE information for consumers in a free marketplace. I also love roads, schools, and a commie-free environment. The state is not a prerequisite for any of these things; quite the contrary.

[Montegriffo]

Many businesses have found that once they start measuring their emissions they identify ways they can do things differently that save money as well as carbon. This applies to any businesses regardless of size. So this guidance can also help organisations manage their carbon risks and opportunities.
This is something customers and investors are increasingly expecting businesses to do.
The guidance has been developed with the help of many individuals, businesses and organisations through extensive public consultation. We are grateful to the CBI, the Carbon Disclosure Project, the accountancy professional bodies, the Institute of Environmental Management and Assessment, the Aldersgate Group and many others who contributed to making it as practical as possible

Full details here
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 909011.pdf

[PartyOf5]

Urbanite men also fuck each other in the ass

Damn straight. The rural men don't do that. They have farm animals.

[DBTrek]

Many businesses have found that once they start measuring their emissions they identify ways they can do things differently that save money as well as carbon. This applies to any businesses regardless of size. So this guidance can also help organisations manage their carbon risks and opportunities.
This is something customers and investors are increasingly expecting businesses to do.
The guidance has been developed with the help of many individuals, businesses and organisations through extensive public consultation. We are grateful to the CBI, the Carbon Disclosure Project, the accountancy professional bodies, the Institute of Environmental Management and Assessment, the Aldersgate Group and many others who contributed to making it as practical as possible

Full details here
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 909011.pdf

What did you think of their process for determining carbon footprint in that 75-page report. What did you think of their methods for tracking emissions over time and how such a process would be applied to the global food industry?

I mean, you read the report, right? You're not just trusting it by default like some lemming, I'm sure.

[Montegriffo]

Many businesses have found that once they start measuring their emissions they identify ways they can do things differently that save money as well as carbon. This applies to any businesses regardless of size. So this guidance can also help organisations manage their carbon risks and opportunities.
This is something customers and investors are increasingly expecting businesses to do.
The guidance has been developed with the help of many individuals, businesses and organisations through extensive public consultation. We are grateful to the CBI, the Carbon Disclosure Project, the accountancy professional bodies, the Institute of Environmental Management and Assessment, the Aldersgate Group and many others who contributed to making it as practical as possible

Full details here
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 909011.pdf

What did you think of their process for determining carbon footprint in that 75-page report. What did you think of their methods for tracking emissions over time and how such a process would be applied to the global food industry?

I mean, you read the report, right? You're not just trusting it by default like some lemming, I'm sure.

I'm just trying to give you some information to back up your assertions, true to form you are rejecting it without even knowing what it says or how it comes to a conclusion.

[DBTrek]

I'm just trying to give you some information to back up your assertions, true to form you are rejecting it without even knowing what it says or how it comes to a conclusion.

"I'm just citing the data that I believe with my whole heart but haven't read. True to form you won't even do all the research for me before deciding whether or not my blind belief is justified"


You've got it rough, kiddo.