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Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?
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Rand Paul talking about Comey firing, reveals that he was spied on during the 2016 election and perhaps other candidates as well.
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Our Intel Community is out of control. It is the root of the Deep State, the Operational entity of the Deep State. Frankly, I would like to see EPA level cuts in the IC.ssu wrote:You know what, I think they truly want to bury this thing, really. It's not only the GOP dragging their feet. It's likely that the IC is embarrassed if it's true.Hwen Hoshino wrote:I wanna see congress ride these wild times. It's gonna be interesting.
People might think here that the IC is out there to "kill" Trump. But the fact is that the administration is already in place and if something would come out of it, it would simply tarnish not only those who are in the Trump administration, but be damning to the IC community itself.
There's an interesting seminar held at CSIS where Mike Pompeo, Trump's CIA chief, held his first public speach and answered questions. It's quite telling, and I've been thinking of starting a thread about it itself. It tells clearly how the present CIA (and likely other IC members will deal now in this administration with the whole thing).
I could be wrong, but if something comes out of this, it's going to stop on some Carter Page. Page will be said to been totally free-wheeling and reckless with the Russia relations.
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Couldn't agree moreC-Mag wrote:Our Intel Community is out of control. It is the root of the Deep State, the Operational entity of the Deep State. Frankly, I would like to see EPA level cuts in the IC.ssu wrote:You know what, I think they truly want to bury this thing, really. It's not only the GOP dragging their feet. It's likely that the IC is embarrassed if it's true.Hwen Hoshino wrote:I wanna see congress ride these wild times. It's gonna be interesting.
People might think here that the IC is out there to "kill" Trump. But the fact is that the administration is already in place and if something would come out of it, it would simply tarnish not only those who are in the Trump administration, but be damning to the IC community itself.
There's an interesting seminar held at CSIS where Mike Pompeo, Trump's CIA chief, held his first public speach and answered questions. It's quite telling, and I've been thinking of starting a thread about it itself. It tells clearly how the present CIA (and likely other IC members will deal now in this administration with the whole thing).
I could be wrong, but if something comes out of this, it's going to stop on some Carter Page. Page will be said to been totally free-wheeling and reckless with the Russia relations.
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Obama was spying on everyone, and breaking the Constitution.
http://circa.com/politics/barack-obamas ... -americans
http://circa.com/politics/barack-obamas ... -americans
Constitutional violations, someone needs to go to jail.More than 5 percent, or one out of every 20 searches seeking upstream Internet data on Americans inside the NSA’s so-called Section 702 database violated the safeguards Obama and his intelligence chiefs vowed to follow in 2011, according to one classified internal report reviewed by Circa.
The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26 before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that set off alarm. Trump was elected less than two weeks later.
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Impeach!
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I guess the press was too busy going Russia, Russia, Russia to look into this.pineapplemike wrote:Impeach!
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If you'd like to blame Obama for the NSA actions of the last 8 years, then you'll have to blame Trump for what they're (still) doing now.C-Mag wrote:Obama was spying on everyone, and breaking the Constitution.
http://circa.com/politics/barack-obamas ... -americans
Constitutional violations, someone needs to go to jail.More than 5 percent, or one out of every 20 searches seeking upstream Internet data on Americans inside the NSA’s so-called Section 702 database violated the safeguards Obama and his intelligence chiefs vowed to follow in 2011, according to one classified internal report reviewed by Circa.
The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26 before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that set off alarm. Trump was elected less than two weeks later.
Personally, I doubt they have any fucking clue.
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:C-Mag wrote:Obama was spying on everyone, and breaking the Constitution.
http://circa.com/politics/barack-obamas ... -americans
Constitutional violations, someone needs to go to jail.More than 5 percent, or one out of every 20 searches seeking upstream Internet data on Americans inside the NSA’s so-called Section 702 database violated the safeguards Obama and his intelligence chiefs vowed to follow in 2011, according to one classified internal report reviewed by Circa.
The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26 before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that set off alarm. Trump was elected less than two weeks later.
Personally, I doubt they have any fucking clue.
You guys have been underestimating Trump from the start, aren't you tired of getting your ass kicked by him?
The intelligent thing to do is take him seriously.
Don't worry, I do. As I blame Shrub and BJ for what they did as well.If you'd like to blame Obama for the NSA actions of the last 8 years, then you'll have to blame Trump for what they're (still) doing now.
Why do you want to give Hussein O a free pass ?
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President Obama was particularly overreaching and egregious in his spying as well.
Sheryl Attkison has a good timeline of the known Obama Spying
https://sharylattkisson.com/obama-era-s ... -timeline/
There is far too much to post here, and even short summaries of the last year of the Obama Admin I am posting is a mini wall of text.
Sheryl Attkison has a good timeline of the known Obama Spying
https://sharylattkisson.com/obama-era-s ... -timeline/
There is far too much to post here, and even short summaries of the last year of the Obama Admin I am posting is a mini wall of text.
So above are some hard reasons to hold Obama accountable for his Domestic Spying, which by the way is a violation of the ConstitutionDecember 2015:
The Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (CISA) passes. It requires private Internet companies to “transmit cyber-threat indicators” to the Department of Homeland Security and granting the companies immunity from prosecution for sharing customers’ personal data in those cases.
The Wall Street Journal reports that the Obama administration incidentally collected private communications by members of Congress
July 2016:
Trump is nominated
According to later news reports, after Trump’s nomination, internal White House logs show Obama National Security Adviser Susan Rice begins to show increased interest in National Security Agency (NSA) intelligence material that included “unmasked” Americans’ identities.
Summer 2016:
The FBI reportedly obtains a secret FISA court order to monitor communications of Trump adviser Carter Page, convincing a judge there’s probable cause to believe Page is acting as a Russian agent. Surveillance of Page theoretically allows government officials to “incidentally” collect communications of Trump associates (or Trump himself) if they communicate with Page.
Fall 2016:
Trump opponents “shop” to reporters a political opposition research “dossier” alleging Trump is guilty of various inappropriate acts regarding Russia. The information is unverified (and some of it is false) and the press doesn’t publish it, but a copy is provided to the FBI.
October 7, 2016:
Former vice chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff James Cartwright pleads guilty in a leak investigation to lying to the FBI about his discussions with reporters regarding Iran’s nuclear program.
October 26, 2016:
At closed-door hearing before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the Obama administration disclosed that it had been violating surveillance safeguards, according to Circa. It disclosed that more than 5 percent of its searches of the NSA’s database violated safeguards promised in 2011.
NOTE: The Obama Administration estimated it had collected 5% of Americans information and communication. If you do the math that affects 16,500,000 Americans
November 8, 2016:
Donald Trump is elected President.
November 2016-January 2017:
News reports claim Rice’s interest in the NSA materials accelerates after President Trump’s election through his January inauguration. Surveillance reportedly included Trump transition figures and/or foreign officials discussing a Trump administration.
December 2016:
FBI secretly monitors and records communications between Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak and Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, who later became President Trump’s national security adviser
After Trump’s election, Obama officials take steps to ensure certain intelligence gathered regarding Trump associates is “spread across the government.” One Obama official would later say it’s because they were afraid once Trump officials “found out how we knew what we knew,” the intelligence would be destroyed. However, Obama critics later theorize Obama officials were working to mount opposition to Trump’s presidency.
January 10, 2017:
The media reports on the leaked anti-Trump “dossier” compiled by a political opposition research group containing unverified and at least partly untrue allegations of misconduct involving Trump and Russia.
January 12, 2017:
The Obama administration finalizes new rules allowing the National Security Agency (NSA) to spread certain intelligence to 16 other U.S. intel agencies without the normal privacy protections.
President Obama commutes all but the last four months of Manning’s sentence for leaking intelligence information to WikiLeaks.
February 2, 2017:
The news reports that five information technology (IT) computer professionals employed by Democrats in the House of Representatives are under criminal investigation for allegedly “accessing House IT systems without lawmakers’ knowledge.” The suspects include three brothers identified as Abid, Imran and Jamal Awan “who managed office information technology for members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and other lawmakers.” The brothers were said to have been employed by three Democrats on the Intelligence Committee and “five members of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs which deal with with many of the nation’s most sensitive issues and documents, including those related to the war on terrorism.”
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