Net Neutrality

[heydaralon]

You want to sell something online and reach the most amount of people for cheap, you go to Amazon. You want to go online, you can use a dozen other ISPs...

That is not the case for huge parts of the country. Many folks have a single ISP in their area. If there was serious competition, people wouldn't be losing their shit like they are now.

I *need* food to compete in our society. It's like a freaking human right, right?

I want Grocery Neutrality. I have to drive like 5 miles to the Whole Foods. I need USDA Grade A Choice all grass fed organic strips tonight from the Aldi's 1 mile from my crib at the neutral rate, say 4.99 / lb.

Oh and I want to buy 100 lbs at that price.

Seems legit, eh?

What if your town had one grocery store that aggresively lobbied to stamp out all competition, then jacked up the prices for food? To me, that is what this feels more akin to.

[heydaralon]

You mean we had net neutrality AND your podunk town had one ISP? And now net neutrality is gone and you still have one ISP? Damn, that makes your outrage completely understandable. Clearly you’ve been screwed.

Now, now, DB... you understand that the internet has reached the end of its evolution, right?

You understand that ISP expansion beyond one per Florida swamp is agin' the laws of physics, right? Why do you pretend the laws of physics and the laws of the FCC don't exist?

I would love some competition. Many of the arguments presented here make it seem as though with NN repealed this will happen. Judging by past ISP behavior, I am more than a bit skeptical.

[nmoore63]

Its really disheartening how much effort is to get anyone won of over to my clearly superior solution.

My accept government do something is huge sacrifice on my part.

My Feelz are hurt how little points that is getting me as far as meeting me half way.

[DBTrek]

I would love some competition. Many of the arguments presented here make it seem as though with NN repealed this will happen. Judging by past ISP behavior, I am more than a bit skeptical.

You had no competition with NN. Why you complaining about competition now that it’s gone? If you could anchor your argument to the topic somehow it would go a long way toward clarifying why you’re wrapped around the axle.

[Fife]

That is not the case for huge parts of the country. Many folks have a single ISP in their area. If there was serious competition, people wouldn't be losing their shit like they are now.

I *need* food to compete in our society. It's like a freaking human right, right?

I want Grocery Neutrality. I have to drive like 5 miles to the Whole Foods. I need USDA Grade A Choice all grass fed organic strips tonight from the Aldi's 1 mile from my crib at the neutral rate, say 4.99 / lb.

Oh and I want to buy 100 lbs at that price.

Seems legit, eh?

What if your town had one grocery store that aggresively lobbied to stamp out all competition, then jacked up the prices for food? To me, that is what this feels more akin to.

So we just outlaw the Walmart, right?

Problem solved, everybody gets even cheaper more plentiful groceries than the Walmart used to choke us out for, from *somewhere*; oh wait when are the Walmart monopoly pricing schemes being implemented again? Government is a hell of a drug.

[heydaralon]

I would love some competition. Many of the arguments presented here make it seem as though with NN repealed this will happen. Judging by past ISP behavior, I am more than a bit skeptical.

You had no competition with NN. Why you complaining about competition now that it’s gone? If you could anchor your argument to the topic somehow it would go a long way toward clarifying why you’re wrapped around the axle.

In my bought out opinion, Net Neutrality was good because it protected all (legal) content and treated it the same. Personally, I do not believe we will ever have a free market for ISPs due to graft, so many unpopular ideas and unpopular sites will now be throttled or censored by this. I hope you are right about more competition, but since the ISPs effectively got rid of it a decade before this bill got passed, I don't see why they would want it now. They have even more power. Why would they want competition?

[DBTrek]

How did they recruit heydaralon into the army of the outraged?

“Man, I only have one ISP, now these fuckers are gonna jack my internet rates!”

“Dude, if you only have one ISP they could’ve jacked your rates before. Still can. Nothing has changed.”



Also - to your latest post - you don’t see a difference between a packet for a self driving automobile and a packet for NDs frog memes? You want those treated equally?
Daaaaaaaamn

[heydaralon]

Why do you guys think the Market is a perfect solution to every problem?

Despite your attempts to paint me as this SJW democrat faggot, I am very skeptical of the government and I understand that it isn't ideal for solving many problems. When it does, its usually not a great solution. That being said, having blind faith that the market will fix this stuff is not much different in having blind faith in the government. Businesses do not care about free markets. They are like the government in the sense that they want the most power and market share possible. That is their nature. From their perspective it is far easier to just bribe a congressman to enact a policy than to be competitive. There isn't a solution to stopping them from doing this, so I'm fine with certain regulations, not because I think they are great and work well, but because it keeps the worst impulses of business and government in check.

[heydaralon]

How did they recruit heydaralon into the army of the outraged?

“Man, I only have one ISP, now these fuckers are gonna jack my internet rates!”

“Dude, if you only have one ISP they could’ve jacked your rates before. Still can. Nothing has changed.”



Also - to your latest post - you don’t see a difference between a packet for a self driving automobile and a packet for NDs frog memes? You want those treated equally?
Daaaaaaaamn

Well, I hate facebook and I don't view most of that data as valuable, but I am the minority there. I'll bet a bunch of fb posters would view my shitposting as useless data too. I'm not in a position to tell people if their online activities are valauble, and I certainly wouldn't anyone making that call for me.

[DBTrek]

You don’t want anyone deciding that data packets vital to directing real world traffic are more important than midget porn packets?

Ooooooook.

Well, I guess that explains your outrage. Fuck packet discrimination, that shit is prejudiced or something.