Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[The Conservative]

Today Suffolk, tomorrow London and next the world. Seig heil.

Something...something... glass houses...

[Montegriffo]

Food labels to show 'carbon footprint' under Government plans
Supermarket food will be clearly labelled to show its carbon footprint as well as country of origin and animal welfare standards as part of efforts to transform the British diet.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/ ... plans.html

Well, that's a good start. At least the public will have the knowledge to enable them to boycott the worst offenders if they so choose.

[DBTrek]

Every time you think Europe has run out of new flavors of kool-aid.

[Speaker to Animals]

Food labels to show 'carbon footprint' under Government plans
Supermarket food will be clearly labelled to show its carbon footprint as well as country of origin and animal welfare standards as part of efforts to transform the British diet.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/ ... plans.html

Well, that's a good start. At least the public will have the knowledge to enable them to boycott the worst offenders if they so choose.

It's a much more effective solution than trying to control everybody else's behavior. Show people an honest accounting of the carbon footprint of what they do, and let them optimize their consumption their own. Everything is a trade-off. Some things people want to consume have higher carbon footprints. But they can offset that in other areas. Just giving them this accounting will allow them to do that without coercion.

The usual liberal response is to want to control behavior they don't personally engage in while turning a blind eye to their own contributions to the problem.

[Fife]

If not for the state, who would tell us which corporations have the best and slickest regulatory manipulators?

[Speaker to Animals]

If not for the state, who would tell us which corporations have the best and slickest regulatory manipulators?

There is nothing wrong with labeling regulations.

I personally like to know with accuracy what the fuck is in the food I consume. This is not the libertarian utopia of the 1880s. Go eat some rat balls if you want the true libertarian experience.

[Montegriffo]

Every time you think some Americans have reached peak ignorance then they mock you for wanting to be informed.

[DBTrek]

It sounds like a good idea ... until you start wondering who will be measuring the carbon footprint number, who will be verifying, and who will be paying for the bureaucracy to make sure the claims are accurate. Then it starts sounding like a boondoggle imagines from whole cloth to create new burdens on producers and new jobs for bureaucrats.

This isn’t a simple matter of GMO/Not GMO. This will require ongoing measurements and analysis, unless we’re simply going to make shit up.

[DBTrek]

Every time you think some Americans have reached peak ignorance then they mock you for wanting to be informed.

I mock you for poor cost analysis on your information, and poor sourcing. Unverifiable carbon footprint number on your food packages tells you nothing about the contents or nutritional value of your food.

[Montegriffo]

It sounds like a good idea ... until you start wondering who will be measuring the carbon footprint number, who will be verifying, and who will be paying for the bureaucracy to make sure the claims are accurate. Then it starts sounding like a boondoggle imagines from whole cloth to create new burdens on producers and new jobs for bureaucrats.

This isn’t a simple matter of GMO/Not GMO. This will require ongoing measurements and analysis, unless we’re simply going to make shit up.

What was that you were saying only yesterday about not giving up just because something isn't easy?