Unite the Right

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:02 pm

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Speaker to Animals wrote:What's more.. even in the context of the Civil War, it wasn't the Yankees who won that fucking thing. It was their Irish immigrants. Those guys didn't have a chance to become "Yankees" yet. You lot drafted them before they could even step off their fucking ships, and sent them into the fray to battle their own fellow Irish.

That really sums up the Yankee strategy right there. Capitulate and surrender when you might have to sacrifice yourself, but if you can bring in millions of immigrants, use them for your political gain instead.
How many Irish fought in the Confederacy? I'm guessing those numbers are pretty fucking small, compared to the number of black slaves pressed into service.

It's not like all of Appalachia and half the South were settled by Scots-Irish or anything. Genius.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:03 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:What's more.. even in the context of the Civil War, it wasn't the Yankees who won that fucking thing. It was their Irish immigrants. Those guys didn't have a chance to become "Yankees" yet. You lot drafted them before they could even step off their fucking ships, and sent them into the fray to battle their own fellow Irish.

That really sums up the Yankee strategy right there. Capitulate and surrender when you might have to sacrifice yourself, but if you can bring in millions of immigrants, use them for your political gain instead.
Really came down to their navy, they blockaded the Confederacy into a Treaty of Versailles, same as the Royal Navy did to the Kaiserreich.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:04 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:What's more.. even in the context of the Civil War, it wasn't the Yankees who won that fucking thing. It was their Irish immigrants. Those guys didn't have a chance to become "Yankees" yet. You lot drafted them before they could even step off their fucking ships, and sent them into the fray to battle their own fellow Irish.

That really sums up the Yankee strategy right there. Capitulate and surrender when you might have to sacrifice yourself, but if you can bring in millions of immigrants, use them for your political gain instead.
Really came down to their navy, they blockaded the Confederacy into a Treaty of Versailles, same as the Royal Navy did to the Kaiserreich.

It came down to their addiction to slavery. If they would just give it up, the British might have intervened more.

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Re: Unite the Right

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Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:What's more.. even in the context of the Civil War, it wasn't the Yankees who won that fucking thing. It was their Irish immigrants. Those guys didn't have a chance to become "Yankees" yet. You lot drafted them before they could even step off their fucking ships, and sent them into the fray to battle their own fellow Irish.

That really sums up the Yankee strategy right there. Capitulate and surrender when you might have to sacrifice yourself, but if you can bring in millions of immigrants, use them for your political gain instead.
How many Irish fought in the Confederacy? I'm guessing those numbers are pretty fucking small, compared to the number of black slaves pressed into service.

It's not like all of Appalachia and half the South were settled by Scots-Irish or anything. Genius.
I'll wait here.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:06 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
How many Irish fought in the Confederacy? I'm guessing those numbers are pretty fucking small, compared to the number of black slaves pressed into service.

It's not like all of Appalachia and half the South were settled by Scots-Irish or anything. Genius.
I'll wait here.

Wait for what?

You do realize that most of the South was populated by Irish, right?

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by apeman » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:06 pm

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apeman wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Get out of that cancerous hellhole city :lol:
I live in a city of ~25K people, one of the nicest places in the country
Don't name your freeway exit, and pretend it's a rural community. You know you're looking at skyscrapers out the window.
You are a colossal moron.

I live absolutely nowhere near NYC.

Zero skyscrapers, zero buildings over a few stories

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:14 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:What's more.. even in the context of the Civil War, it wasn't the Yankees who won that fucking thing. It was their Irish immigrants. Those guys didn't have a chance to become "Yankees" yet. You lot drafted them before they could even step off their fucking ships, and sent them into the fray to battle their own fellow Irish.

That really sums up the Yankee strategy right there. Capitulate and surrender when you might have to sacrifice yourself, but if you can bring in millions of immigrants, use them for your political gain instead.
Really came down to their navy, they blockaded the Confederacy into a Treaty of Versailles, same as the Royal Navy did to the Kaiserreich.

It came down to their addiction to slavery. If they would just give it up, the British might have intervened more.

The arm of decision in both American revolutions was at sea, in the first revolution, a European superpower intervened with its navy, and so the Original Virginia Seceches won the war, in the second revolution, no European superpower intervened, so the Kings of Virginia fell at the foot of Cemetery Ridge.

But the British didn't actually care about slavery in Dixie, it wasn't a moral imperative which kept them out, they were just daunted by the Union's million man army and suddenly superpowered navy, which could in fact rival the British already, so in the end, no sense losing all of Canada for Richmond VA, the British sided with the stronger side, because they thought they would win in the end, and you don't want to make an enemy of the new superpower on the block, got enough problems in Europe and India, don't need to be dealing with mo problems just for John Cotton and Johnny Reb, who did after all, revolt against the Crown, if John Cotton and Johnny Reb wanted the protection of the Crown, they had their chance in the 1770's.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by kybkh » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:17 pm

Trump is tearing the press up in this presser.

WOW!
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:20 pm

What a nazi

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by kybkh » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:24 pm

Pretty amazing how hard he came out at the Left's involvement.

Flat out stated "both sides are to blame".
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