THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed May 03, 2017 4:11 pm

Kath wrote:So, you're saying he did know that Andrew Jackson was dead long before the Civil War started, and intentionally lied about it so he could appear to have folksy charm? If I was a Trumpster, I'd take that as a dis. He's calling his fans stupid. A winning strategy for his groupies.
When did Trump say Andrew Jackson was alive during or after the civil war?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by heydaralon » Wed May 03, 2017 4:12 pm

StCapps wrote:
heydaralon wrote:Shutter Island was not a good movie. Easily the Worst Scorsese movie in the last 15 years. It had its moments, but sadly it decided to go down the well travelled amnesia/multiple personality path. Fight Club is pretty overrated, but at least when it used the multiple personality thing, it was the first movie to do that. Nowadays, thats just lazy, uninspired writing.
People don't get the ending, that's why they hate on it. It got layers people, I'm fucking telling you, watch that again. It's not even close to Scorsese's best, but it's still a great Horror movie and it's not easy to make a good horror movie.
Its not hard to make a movie where you basically make the twist: "Whoa! He's got two personalities! That means everything you saw is wrong because we tricked you" Its been done to death. Come up with a new plot device. Its a well made movie, but I hate that kind of gimmicky shit.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed May 03, 2017 4:15 pm

heydaralon wrote:Its not hard to make a movie where you basically make the twist: "Whoa! He's got two personalities! That means everything you saw is wrong because we tricked you" Its been done to death. Come up with a new plot device. Its a well made movie, but I hate that kind of gimmicky shit.
Yeah but Scorsese uses that gimmick in service of a dope ending, so it gets a total pass from me. I hate that shit when it's poorly done, but Shutter Island isn't an example of doing it just for the sake of doing it, it has a purpose and it's well executed. If that wasn't the case I'd agree with you without reservation but the context a gimmick is used in matters.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by heydaralon » Wed May 03, 2017 4:16 pm

StCapps wrote:
Kath wrote:So, you're saying he did know that Andrew Jackson was dead long before the Civil War started, and intentionally lied about it so he could appear to have folksy charm? If I was a Trumpster, I'd take that as a dis. He's calling his fans stupid. A winning strategy for his groupies.
When did Trump say Andrew Jackson was alive during or after the civil war?
How educated are BLM people on Civil War history? Or the American public in general? I could be wrong about this, but if you did a Howard Stern style poll on random people they wouldn't know shit about the civil war or any US history. I'm not saying that excuses Trump, but don't act like stupidity is just confined to right-leaning rednecks in the South. The blacks in Camden aren't gonna be reading Shelby Foote anytime soon.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed May 03, 2017 4:17 pm

The movie was good. Scorcesse is a shit and the plot device is cheap. Like most of his plots. But good movie none the less. I enjoyed it. Maybe because I'm a dicaprio fag...

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed May 03, 2017 4:20 pm

heydaralon wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Kath wrote:So, you're saying he did know that Andrew Jackson was dead long before the Civil War started, and intentionally lied about it so he could appear to have folksy charm? If I was a Trumpster, I'd take that as a dis. He's calling his fans stupid. A winning strategy for his groupies.
When did Trump say Andrew Jackson was alive during or after the civil war?
How educated are BLM people on Civil War history? Or the American public in general? I could be wrong about this, but if you did a Howard Stern style poll on random people they wouldn't know shit about the civil war or any US history. I'm not saying that excuses Trump, but don't act like stupidity is just confined to right-leaning rednecks in the South. The blacks in Camden aren't gonna be reading Shelby Foote anytime soon.
Maybe Trump is uneducated about the Civil War, but the comments I have seen him make about it, at least thus far, don't lead me to conclusion that he doesn't know anything about it because he wondered why it had to happen in a folksy way. That's just reaching.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by heydaralon » Wed May 03, 2017 4:21 pm

Gangs of New York is their best collaboration. I liked the Aviator too, and the departed was a bit overcooked, but still good.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed May 03, 2017 4:22 pm

Hmm. All good movies. Scorcesse did all of those?

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Post by StCapps » Wed May 03, 2017 4:22 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:The movie was good. Scorcesse is a shit and the plot device is cheap. Like most of his plots. But good movie none the less. I enjoyed it. Maybe because I'm a dicaprio fag...
DiCaprio used to be shit way back in the day when he was young as fuck, but the dude stepped his game up something fierce. Anyone who says DiCaprio can't act anymore is just a hater living in the past, he's been dope for decades.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Wed May 03, 2017 4:23 pm

heydaralon wrote: The blacks in Camden aren't gonna be reading Shelby Foote anytime soon.
Fantastic books - read them in college.

I think you made the point, though. It's not about what he says, but how. He speaks off the cuff without any insight or information. He just tosses words into a bowl and makes a word salad and pukes it out at people. Most of it ends up being not true. It's just.... odd.
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