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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu May 04, 2017 2:49 pm

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Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte on Saturday urged the United States to show restraint after North Korea's latest missile test and to avoid playing into the hands of leader Kim Jong Un, who "wants to end the world".

The notoriously blunt Duterte said the Southeast Asia region was extremely worried about tensions between the United States and North Korea, and said one misstep would be a "catastrophe" and Asia would be the first victim of a nuclear war.

The United States, Japan, South Korea and China, he said, were sparring with a man who was excited about the prospect of firing missiles.
Duterte is current chairman of the Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN) and was due to speak by telephone to U.S. President Donald Trump later on Saturday. He said he would urge Trump not to get into a confrontation with Kim.
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Post by StCapps » Thu May 04, 2017 2:50 pm

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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu May 04, 2017 2:56 pm

Actually in light of what smitty says NK's long game is, it would make sense for Duterte to encourage the long game to unfold.

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Post by StCapps » Thu May 04, 2017 2:57 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:Actually in light of what smitty says NK's long game is, it would make sense for Duterte to encourage the long game to unfold.
Nah it would make sense for him to demonize KIm to increase the Philippines bargaining leverage with the US. The crazier Kim seems to the US, the more useful regional powers become as a check on their power. It's not a dire warning from Duterte, it's political mind games to serve his agenda.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu May 04, 2017 3:04 pm

He didn't say anything we don't already know. He's just saying he thinks it would be a good idea to continue to do nothing.

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Post by StCapps » Thu May 04, 2017 3:20 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:He didn't say anything we don't already know. He's just saying he thinks it would be a good idea to continue to do nothing.
Kim isn't crazy and irrational, he just likes to saber rattle.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu May 04, 2017 7:11 pm

StCapps wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:He didn't say anything we don't already know. He's just saying he thinks it would be a good idea to continue to do nothing.
Kim isn't crazy and irrational, he just likes to saber rattle.
About every six months for my entire life. Well, his bloodline, anyway. Nothingburger AFAIC.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon May 08, 2017 7:57 am

They are practicing for an EMP attack?

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017 ... homefront/

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Post by adwinistrator » Mon May 08, 2017 8:50 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:They are practicing for an EMP attack?

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017 ... homefront/
They are not. EMP strikes via satellite are not based in reality.

The US conducted some testing in the 60's where high altitude nuclear tests created EMP blasts that disrupted electrical and communications networks in Hawaii, but it's not like this is something that is easily measured or calculated... 1.4 megatons, at an altitude of 250 miles, knocked out 300 streetlights and a telecom microwave link 900 miles away.

So how many megatons, at what altitude, and at what location, would be needed to cripple the entire US? Nobody knows for sure.

If this is used as a first strike, will it need to cripple the US to the point of being unable to launch a nuclear counter-attack? How likely is that? Would North Korea be willing to deploy a weapon that will ensure their destruction, without knowing if it's effectiveness is worth the retaliation? What if they detonate two nukes in orbit above the US, and it causes a few towns to temporarily lose power?

It's just not realistic in any way.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon May 08, 2017 9:20 am

adwinistrator wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:They are practicing for an EMP attack?

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017 ... homefront/
They are not. EMP strikes via satellite are not based in reality.

The US conducted some testing in the 60's where high altitude nuclear tests created EMP blasts that disrupted electrical and communications networks in Hawaii, but it's not like this is something that is easily measured or calculated... 1.4 megatons, at an altitude of 250 miles, knocked out 300 streetlights and a telecom microwave link 900 miles away.

So how many megatons, at what altitude, and at what location, would be needed to cripple the entire US? Nobody knows for sure.

If this is used as a first strike, will it need to cripple the US to the point of being unable to launch a nuclear counter-attack? How likely is that? Would North Korea be willing to deploy a weapon that will ensure their destruction, without knowing if it's effectiveness is worth the retaliation? What if they detonate two nukes in orbit above the US, and it causes a few towns to temporarily lose power?

It's just not realistic in any way.

You are talking about two different things. A detonation in space is not the same thing as what this person alleges they will do. A detonation at the lower altitude absolutely could send part of our nation back to the 19th century.

Go read the Congressional report on the risk. When the congressmen at the hearing asked the experts what would happen, the experts said something to the effect that we could feed maybe tens of millions of people. One congressman said we have hundreds of millions of people. The expert replied: correct.

Don't think you are so high and mighty that all this can't be laid low in an afternoon.