Income Inequality

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:26 am

Fife wrote:Is healthcare a right?

Negatory.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:29 am

Martin Hash wrote:I'm going to have to go back to just reading your stuff occasionally. Someone nudge me when StA says something rational.

You cannot claim something is a right that can be exhausted. If social security is a right, and we can't pay out social security checks because of some calamity, then who is the one who wronged the payees?

When you are denied a right, somebody wronged you, and the courts are supposed to find out who and make remunerations for that wrong. If the government unjustly deprives me of the right to free speech, then that should be remedied. We can say this is so because there exists no natural barrier to my right to free speech. Such a limitation must necessarily be imposed by design by the government.

But the government can become unable to pay social security through no fault of its own.

Just because it would be nice for everybody to have something doesn't make it rational to claim they have a "right" to it.


Rights are things like freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of thought and conscience, and so on.

The left likes to make everything they enjoy a "right", which means not only does the word right mean nothing, but that "rights" become the property of the state, to be doled out at the state's discretion. It's a very bad idea to take that path.
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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:30 am

Fife wrote:Is healthcare a right?
Yes, any ER. (But you knew that.)
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Re: Income Inequality

Post by C-Mag » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:37 am

There is a fair amount of income inequality in Welfare, here are the best and worst states to NOT work in.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by K@th » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:40 am

Fife wrote:Is healthcare a right?
I'd call it a responsibility.
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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Fife » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:48 am

Is peanut butter and jelly a right? (Is eating a right?)

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by DBTrek » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:50 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:By 'care and economic philanthropy of other's hard work' I assume you mean being kept by whatever trust fund kid is maintaining a stable for their own edification?

Versus punching in for some unedifying task day in and day out for the pride of having earned my poverty? Hell yeah I take being a horse... running around, getting fed, maybe being put to stud... shit... never ceasing wheel of the world, bring me back as some one else's luxury by all means.
Men who aspire to be the livestock of other men just may get their wish.

Personally, I think it speaks volumes that your mindset regarding work amounts to "punching in for some unedifying task day in and day out for the pride of having earned my poverty". That's poverty thinking for sure. A bigger obstacle than any systemic roadblock you could identify. When you regard work as an unpleasant outside force inflicted upon you how do you suppose that affects the odds of you building a business or career that brings you life satisfaction? It can't be helping you any.

. . . and what happens when you become another man's pet and discover that you aren't any happier under that system either? At that point you've surrendered the autonomy and free will needed to change your situation.
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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:56 am

DBTrek wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:By 'care and economic philanthropy of other's hard work' I assume you mean being kept by whatever trust fund kid is maintaining a stable for their own edification?

Versus punching in for some unedifying task day in and day out for the pride of having earned my poverty? Hell yeah I take being a horse... running around, getting fed, maybe being put to stud... shit... never ceasing wheel of the world, bring me back as some one else's luxury by all means.
Men who aspire to be the livestock of other men just may get their wish.

Personally, I think it speaks volumes that your mindset regarding work amounts to "punching in for some unedifying task day in and day out for the pride of having earned my poverty". That's poverty thinking for sure. A bigger obstacle than any systemic roadblock you could identify. When you regard work as an unpleasant outside force inflicted upon you how do you suppose that affects the odds of you building a business or career that brings you life satisfaction? It can't be helping you any.

. . . and what happens when you become another man's pet and discover that you aren't any happier under that system either? At that point you've surrendered the autonomy and free will needed to change your situation.
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That isn't the only thing I would call work... but if that is the work on offer and I get to choose one option from two less than ideal states... gimme horse.
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Re: Income Inequality

Post by SilverEagle » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:57 am

C-Mag wrote:There is a fair amount of income inequality in Welfare, here are the best and worst states to NOT work in.

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Wow look at Hawaii! We need to send those figures to all the mooches in the country. Then maybe they'll head to the CA shoreline and try to row small boats to get there and all die on the way. Boom Welfare system is fixed! :twisted:

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by DBTrek » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:05 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:That isn't the only thing I would call work... but if that is the work on offer and I get to choose one option from two less than ideal states... gimme horse.
You're really inspiring me to write an article on how a generation with unparalleled opportunity, unfettered direct access to consumers, unfettered access to interested investors, and historically high education see themselves as oppressed victims who should probably receive free money.

I'm not talking about you personally (as I think you're an older guy like myself), but I'm talking about the mindset. We're in an era right now where race, gender sex, and religion mater LESS than EVER in the economy - and our whole society is consumed with identity politics, playing victim, and demanding free money to ward off phantom threats.

When you look at the situation objectively you begin to fathom just how irrational human beings are.

It's staggering.
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