How much Voter Fraud do you think we will see this year?

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Re: How much Voter Fraud do you think we will see this year?

Post by Xenophon » Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:20 am

TheOneX wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:57 am
PartyOf5 wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:30 am
The Conservative wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:33 pm


Show me a third party worth voting for... so far they haven't only been a shot in the dark, they have been terrible overall.
Show me a party worth voting for.

I'm done accepting "not quite as bad as the other option". They have shown themselves to be just as bad, just on a longer timeline. I'd rather vote for some other alternative that at least has some hope of doing things better.
I would recommend the Libertarian or Constitution parties.
The Libertarian party is a no-go, for me. The Constitution party is just desperately trying to pretend it's 1790 again. Modern Electoral politics are the problem, and voting is the gayest thing you can do with your pants on. The next vote I cast will be on the referendum to abolish voting.

EDIT: I'll add that restricting the vote back to landowning males would solve a lot of this.

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Re: How much Voter Fraud do you think we will see this year?

Post by The Conservative » Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:27 am

Xenophon wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:20 am
TheOneX wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:57 am
PartyOf5 wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:30 am

Show me a party worth voting for.

I'm done accepting "not quite as bad as the other option". They have shown themselves to be just as bad, just on a longer timeline. I'd rather vote for some other alternative that at least has some hope of doing things better.
I would recommend the Libertarian or Constitution parties.
The Libertarian party is a no-go, for me. The Constitution party is just desperately trying to pretend it's 1790 again. Modern Electoral politics are the problem, and voting is the gayest thing you can do with your pants on. The next vote I cast will be on the referendum to abolish voting.

EDIT: I'll add that restricting the vote back to landowning males would solve a lot of this.
The constitution party believes that the Constitution should not be superseded... unlike most parties today.
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Re: How much Voter Fraud do you think we will see this year?

Post by Xenophon » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:54 am

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:27 am
Xenophon wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:20 am
TheOneX wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:57 am


I would recommend the Libertarian or Constitution parties.
The Libertarian party is a no-go, for me. The Constitution party is just desperately trying to pretend it's 1790 again. Modern Electoral politics are the problem, and voting is the gayest thing you can do with your pants on. The next vote I cast will be on the referendum to abolish voting.

EDIT: I'll add that restricting the vote back to landowning males would solve a lot of this.
The constitution party believes that the Constitution should not be superseded... unlike most parties today.
I know, but they'll be the only ones who think like that. That's a losing strategy, as we've seen. Playing by the rules while everyone else cheats just makes you a principled loser with no power. I'm not in it for symbolic votes because of "muh principles". If the Constitution's Party's platform was, "We take martial law upon winning, during which we investigate and remove anyone with Communist sympathies, and after that we institute a Representative Republic." I'd be on board. We need a Cincinnatus.

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Re: How much Voter Fraud do you think we will see this year?

Post by Xenophon » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:22 pm

https://twitter.com/i/status/1339633830123081730

Chief Justice heard screaming at the rest of the Conservative justices about being afraid of mobs.

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Re: How much Voter Fraud do you think we will see this year?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:37 pm

Xenophon wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:22 pm
https://twitter.com/i/status/1339633830123081730

Chief Justice heard screaming at the rest of the Conservative justices about being afraid of mobs.
Same guy who gave us ‘corporations are people’. Sweet.
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Re: How much Voter Fraud do you think we will see this year?

Post by TheOneX » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:17 pm

Xenophon wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:54 am
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:27 am
Xenophon wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:20 am

The Libertarian party is a no-go, for me. The Constitution party is just desperately trying to pretend it's 1790 again. Modern Electoral politics are the problem, and voting is the gayest thing you can do with your pants on. The next vote I cast will be on the referendum to abolish voting.

EDIT: I'll add that restricting the vote back to landowning males would solve a lot of this.
The constitution party believes that the Constitution should not be superseded... unlike most parties today.
I know, but they'll be the only ones who think like that. That's a losing strategy, as we've seen. Playing by the rules while everyone else cheats just makes you a principled loser with no power. I'm not in it for symbolic votes because of "muh principles". If the Constitution's Party's platform was, "We take martial law upon winning, during which we investigate and remove anyone with Communist sympathies, and after that we institute a Representative Republic." I'd be on board. We need a Cincinnatus.
You do not need very many constitutionalists in Congress to have a great effect on Congress. You only need enough so that one party can never pass a bill without the support of at least 2 parties.

Right now the biggest failure of the Libertarian Party is it tries to act like the Republicans and Democrats in trying to win in every state. What they really need to do is identify a state where they believe they have the best chance to win, and focus their resources in winning in that state and only putting in the minimum into other states to make sure they keep ballot access. Once they establish a Libertarian stronghold where they are repeatedly winning elections, once they have that example to point to that will open doors to other states.

Realistically, though, I think our best chance for a 3rd party to win would be in Utah. A Mormon based party probably could win a seat or two in the House. If we were lucky that would get people to consider other parties.

I do not have much hope in a Trump party. Not that I do not think it would be unsuccessful, but because it would ultimately just be a split of the Republican party. Ultimately it would either be re-absorbed into the Republican party, or would just end up replacing the Republican party. While that may be an improvement, it ultimately would just be a more aggressive Republican party. What we need is a party that has a strong ideology towards freedom and following the Constitution, that can reign in the other two parties. All they would need is 5-10% of Congress to have a massive affect on Congress.

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Re: How much Voter Fraud do you think we will see this year?

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:04 pm

Xenophon wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:22 pm
https://twitter.com/i/status/1339633830123081730

Chief Justice heard screaming at the rest of the Conservative justices about being afraid of mobs.
Doesn’t explain the three Trump appointments...

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Re: How much Voter Fraud do you think we will see this year?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:52 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:04 pm
Xenophon wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:22 pm
https://twitter.com/i/status/1339633830123081730

Chief Justice heard screaming at the rest of the Conservative justices about being afraid of mobs.
Doesn’t explain the three Trump appointments...
Interesting.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/supreme-cou ... 24378.html
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Re: How much Voter Fraud do you think we will see this year?

Post by TheOneX » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:56 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:52 pm
Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:04 pm
Xenophon wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:22 pm
https://twitter.com/i/status/1339633830123081730

Chief Justice heard screaming at the rest of the Conservative justices about being afraid of mobs.
Doesn’t explain the three Trump appointments...
Interesting.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/supreme-cou ... 24378.html
I'm just going to say there are many out there trying to purposefully plant misinformation in order to discredit Trump, Republicans, and the Right.

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Re: How much Voter Fraud do you think we will see this year?

Post by Xenophon » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:57 pm

TheOneX wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:56 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:52 pm
Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:04 pm


Doesn’t explain the three Trump appointments...
Interesting.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/supreme-cou ... 24378.html
I'm just going to say there are many out there trying to purposefully plant misinformation in order to discredit Trump, Republicans, and the Right.
Supreme Court says the Supreme Court was innocent of all wrongdoing.

Interesting.