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Re: Venezuela news

Post by C-Mag » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:47 am

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:02 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:35 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:57 pm

Near, but not impossible. I still think Trump is doing a good job based off of what I have seen drained so far.
He's cleaned out the FBI and DOJ of their senior leadership. However, I'm not confident the replacements coming out the Senior Executive Service are much better. Here's the little Catch-22 they've set up against us. The available candidates Congress will confirm come out the SES. It's a polluted pool. It's the same with voting typically. They want to give you a Bush or Clinton for instance.
Sometimes you need to flush more than once to get rid of the real shit...
The Deep State has created their own safety locks throughout the system, it's hard to pick up on and you only learn a little at a time. For instance Rod Rosenstein was bloviating on in a very convincing manner, threateningly dangerous in tone when it was suggested to him that the FISA Warrant on Trump was made up(which it was). Rosenstein laid out how the system worked, I paraphrase. 'Each FISA Warrant has to be signed by a Senior Executive Service Officer'

So what that means, is that you can't have FISA without the Senior Executive Service Officers, and their the Deep State, largely. So, they've tied the procedural aspects of government to be filtered through them by mandate. As another example, while the POTUS can declassify Anything, it's not quite true. It's anything with consult and approval of National Security Officers or the SES.

They've built a complex circle, where it always comes back to them holding most of the keys to power. Look at how the DOJ Literally ignored Congressional Orders to turn over documents.
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Re: Venezuela news

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:26 am

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:47 am
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:02 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:35 pm


He's cleaned out the FBI and DOJ of their senior leadership. However, I'm not confident the replacements coming out the Senior Executive Service are much better. Here's the little Catch-22 they've set up against us. The available candidates Congress will confirm come out the SES. It's a polluted pool. It's the same with voting typically. They want to give you a Bush or Clinton for instance.
Sometimes you need to flush more than once to get rid of the real shit...
The Deep State has created their own safety locks throughout the system, it's hard to pick up on and you only learn a little at a time. For instance Rod Rosenstein was bloviating on in a very convincing manner, threateningly dangerous in tone when it was suggested to him that the FISA Warrant on Trump was made up(which it was). Rosenstein laid out how the system worked, I paraphrase. 'Each FISA Warrant has to be signed by a Senior Executive Service Officer'

So what that means, is that you can't have FISA without the Senior Executive Service Officers, and their the Deep State, largely. So, they've tied the procedural aspects of government to be filtered through them by mandate. As another example, while the POTUS can declassify Anything, it's not quite true. It's anything with consult and approval of National Security Officers or the SES.

They've built a complex circle, where it always comes back to them holding most of the keys to power. Look at how the DOJ Literally ignored Congressional Orders to turn over documents.
You can do a lot in 8 years if you don’t give a fuck.

The point is that after this BS about the Russia deal, etc... they will have nothing and Trump can push back hard because he will be proven right. This investigation has Created a list of people to investigate after this is all said and done.

As of now they have nothing on him, and they are trying to find something, that is why it’s taken over two years to come out.

So, right now the shit is collecting in the toliet, what you don’t realize it it hasn’t even been flushed once.
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Re: Venezuela news

Post by Fife » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:09 am

StA is right on this topic, you know.

Venezuela opposition tries luring soldiers away from Maduro
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Opposition lawmakers in Venezuela moved Tuesday to pry the military's loyalty away from President Nicolas Maduro, offering protection to members of the armed forces who support a transitional government.

Congress passed declarations finding Maduro's rulings invalid and giving amnesty to members of the military who help in "restoring constitutional order" to Venezuela. They say Maduro's second term, which began Jan. 10, is illegitimate and accuse him of usurping the presidency.

Maduro has cultivated a stronghold within the military by appointing generals to powerful government posts even as Venezuela collapses in a historic economic and political crisis, creating steep challenges for the anti-Maduro politicians.

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Re: Venezuela news

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:46 am

Military loyalty determines the regime, as always.
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Re: Venezuela news

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:50 am

This is why the battle over this SoJus cancer in the military is so important.

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Re: Venezuela news

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:53 am

This quote was a gem as well:
"Anyone who wants to mock the constitution and play politics, well, he'll have to face the constitution, the laws and the courts," Maduro said without mentioning Guaido. "The courts will put things in their place as always."
Same-same. The American Marxists are not really different than these.

The day they control the military is the day we become Venezuela.

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Re: Venezuela news

Post by Zlaxer » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:52 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:53 am
The day they control the military is the day we become Venezuela.

They already do.

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Re: Venezuela news

Post by BjornP » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:23 pm

Opposition leader in Venezuala swears himself in as President of Venezuela:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... duros-rule

I wonder if declaring himself commander of chief will also confuse the Venezuelan military to follow him. How much would a Venezuelan general cost, you think? :think:

Yannow, alot of bad stuff can be said of Lenin and Stalin, but they made a good point about killing military officers within tyrannical government once in a while. Bribe, then take 'em out on a big, happy helicopter ride out to a "mysterious beach resort full of coke and prostitutes"?
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Re: Venezuela news

Post by The Conservative » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:58 pm

And Russia recognizes him as the president too.
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Re: Venezuela news

Post by BjornP » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:21 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:58 pm
And Russia recognizes him as the president too.
As does Trump. Who knows, the military might think that persuasive... or they might not. North Korea has a history of not really given much of a damn about neither Russia or the US's interests or desires, either. We could be looking a live feed of this guy getting executed by forces under some general who owes all his power, status and wealth to Maduro in a few hours.

Or the new guy could win. And we be cheering his downfall on in two years time for whatever reason. :twisted:
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