President Hillary Rodham Clinton

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Re: President Hillary Rodham Clinton

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:02 am

Fife wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:56 am
OIC

"Honesty" requires a precise identification of the joke's "victim."

GTFOH
Not ''honesty'' intent.
Save the misrepresenting for your clients.
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Re: President Hillary Rodham Clinton

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:28 am

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:55 am
pineapplemike wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:48 am
i think trump goes too far when he calls the media "the enemy of the people"

"an" enemy is completely fair and appropriate, but "the" enemy is nonsense

It's unfortunate. Trump has said and shown that he will return respect he is given. Lyin Ted became beautiful Ted. If the media stopped what they started, it could get better.
There we have the crux of the matter.
Trump hates the media because they criticise him. If only they'd stop criticising him it could get better.

Meanwhile free speech warriors demand the right to tell ''ethnic'' jokes.
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Re: President Hillary Rodham Clinton

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Re: President Hillary Rodham Clinton

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:57 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:53 am
I think you have to look for the joke's victim to find the intent.
Now jokes have to have a victim?

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Re: President Hillary Rodham Clinton

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:01 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:57 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:53 am
I think you have to look for the joke's victim to find the intent.
Now jokes have to have a victim?
Again, just talking about these two jokes.

If people could stop putting words in my mouth I'd appreciate it.
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Re: President Hillary Rodham Clinton

Post by Fife » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:03 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:02 am
Fife wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:56 am
OIC

"Honesty" requires a precise identification of the joke's "victim."

GTFOH
Not ''honesty'' intent.
Save the misrepresenting for your clients.
I ain't noways tarrred. Gibs muh hot sauce.

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Re: President Hillary Rodham Clinton

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:04 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:28 am
There we have the crux of the matter.
Trump hates the media because they criticise him. If only they'd stop criticising him it could get better.

Meanwhile free speech warriors demand the right to tell ''ethnic'' jokes.
Talk about misrepresenting. They have gone so far beyond criticizing him. It is obvious to everyone that their intent is to make him look bad. They hate him and it shows. He calls them out on it and they all squeal about it.

You're posts are becoming as dishonest as the media.

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Re: President Hillary Rodham Clinton

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:06 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:01 am
PartyOf5 wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:57 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:53 am
I think you have to look for the joke's victim to find the intent.
Now jokes have to have a victim?
Again, just talking about these two jokes.

If people could stop putting words in my mouth I'd appreciate it.
Just F-off. Those were your exact words. OK, Mr. Semantics, why do these jokes need a victim? And why just these jokes? Are getting tired from dragging those goalposts all over?

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Re: President Hillary Rodham Clinton

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:22 am

Not all jokes have a victim, both of the jokes in question do.
https://www.fluentu.com/blog/english/jokes-in-english/
Script Opposition (SO) references the script opposition included in Raskin's SSTH. This includes, among others, themes such as real (unreal), actual (non-actual), normal (abnormal), possible (impossible).

Logical Mechanism (LM) refers to the mechanism which connects the different scripts in the joke. These can range from a simple verbal technique like a pun to more complex LMs such as faulty logic or false analogies.

Situation (SI) can include objects, activities, instruments, props needed to tell the story.

Target (TA) identifies the actor(s) who become the "butt" of the joke. This labelling serves to develop and solidify stereotypes of ethnic groups, professions, etc.

Narrative strategy (NS) addresses the narrative format of the joke, as either a simple narrative, a dialogue, or a riddle. It attempts to classify the different genres and subgenres of verbal humour. In a subsequent study Attardo expands the NS to include oral and printed humorous narratives of any length, not just jokes.[76]

Language (LA) "…contains all the information necessary for the verbalization of a text. It is responsible for the exact wording …and for the placement of the functional elements."[77]
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Re: President Hillary Rodham Clinton

Post by Fife » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:26 am

Lawdy be, massa, you sho do hab some good joke learnin.

Why does the fact that Billary (and most every other politician) is a racist old bitch bother you so much?