THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Calculus Man » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:14 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:I think Verizon and AT&T have great upisde, you just have to be patient and take your dividends as you go, same with all of them, Johnson & Johnsom, Phillip Morris, Proctor & Gamble, Pfizer, Exxon, Microsoft, etcetera.
I own all but one of the stocks in this post, and they've all been very good to me.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:24 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:I disregard doomsday scenarios, first of all, if you think that you are ever on the precipice of a doomsday, you're not going to invest in anything, to include even a house, but second of all, if it is a doomsday, the mere fact that you weren't holding anything in the equity markets and collecting dividends on, prior to, is not going to save you, so you didn't dodge anything, hence, might as well just get on with it, relaxed in the saddle as you go, once you buy property, in any form, you're in the mix, in for a penny, in for a pound, not diversifying into other forms of equity, once you've purchased any major asset, doesn't make you any safer in the end.

To wit, once you've bought a house, you might as well just put your big boy pants on and diversify then, equity markets included.

If interest rates go through the roof, you can cash out and put your money in a savings account, but unless and until they do, you're not making anything leaving your money in the bank, and since a doomsday would take the bank down too, it's not any safer in the bank, in the event of.
.... or you buy derivatives and short the market. :)
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:33 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:I disregard doomsday scenarios, first of all, if you think that you are ever on the precipice of a doomsday, you're not going to invest in anything, to include even a house, but second of all, if it is a doomsday, the mere fact that you weren't holding anything in the equity markets and collecting dividends on, prior to, is not going to save you, so you didn't dodge anything, hence, might as well just get on with it, relaxed in the saddle as you go, once you buy property, in any form, you're in the mix, in for a penny, in for a pound, not diversifying into other forms of equity, once you've purchased any major asset, doesn't make you any safer in the end.

To wit, once you've bought a house, you might as well just put your big boy pants on and diversify then, equity markets included.

If interest rates go through the roof, you can cash out and put your money in a savings account, but unless and until they do, you're not making anything leaving your money in the bank, and since a doomsday would take the bank down too, it's not any safer in the bank, in the event of.
.... or you buy derivatives and short the market. :)
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:06 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:I disregard doomsday scenarios, first of all, if you think that you are ever on the precipice of a doomsday, you're not going to invest in anything, to include even a house, but second of all, if it is a doomsday, the mere fact that you weren't holding anything in the equity markets and collecting dividends on, prior to, is not going to save you, so you didn't dodge anything, hence, might as well just get on with it, relaxed in the saddle as you go, once you buy property, in any form, you're in the mix, in for a penny, in for a pound, not diversifying into other forms of equity, once you've purchased any major asset, doesn't make you any safer in the end.

To wit, once you've bought a house, you might as well just put your big boy pants on and diversify then, equity markets included.

If interest rates go through the roof, you can cash out and put your money in a savings account, but unless and until they do, you're not making anything leaving your money in the bank, and since a doomsday would take the bank down too, it's not any safer in the bank, in the event of.
.... or you buy derivatives and short the market. :)
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eh?

No, they're called put contracts. Look 'em up.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:17 pm

Okay. I'm sitting. Tell me all about what you know about this.

Surely this isn't another instance of you shooting your mouth off about something you don't know about.

Tell me, in your own words, what is a derivative?
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Post by heydaralon » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:19 pm

A derivative is just a bet I thought. Its where you bet something is gonna increase, decrease, or stay the same in value. I have no idea how the fuck to make money off them though.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:21 pm

heydaralon wrote:A derivative is just a bet I thought. Its where you bet something is gonna increase, decrease, or stay the same in value. I have no idea how the fuck to make money off them though.
Not even Greenspan understood them. GCF sure as fuck does not. But queen Warren told him what to think, so that's what he posts.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by heydaralon » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:22 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
heydaralon wrote:A derivative is just a bet I thought. Its where you bet something is gonna increase, decrease, or stay the same in value. I have no idea how the fuck to make money off them though.
Not even Greenspan understood them. GCF sure as fuck does not. But queen Warren told him what to think, so that's what he posts.
John Travolta sure as fuck understood them in the movie The Taking of Pelham 123. My econ professor in college had a question about that movie on the test.

The correct answer was put option btw. If you ever have David Denslow as a teacher it may come in handy.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:32 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
heydaralon wrote:A derivative is just a bet I thought. Its where you bet something is gonna increase, decrease, or stay the same in value. I have no idea how the fuck to make money off them though.
Not even Greenspan understood them. GCF sure as fuck does not. But queen Warren told him what to think, so that's what he posts.
You're embarrassing yourself. Here's the kid's version.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Options_spread

http://www.investopedia.com/university/ ... trategies/

Greenspan was talking about Mortgage-backed securities, and Credit Default Swaps. A completely different thing, in which shitty loans were being offloaded by banks onto each other, and eventually investors with a false AAA rating. And they aren't that hard to understand either. Watch the Big Short.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:33 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
.... or you buy derivatives and short the market. :)
But you can take out derivatives contracts and short sell, while still holding American blue chip equity, and if you are getting up everyday on a hair trigger for the "big short", then you're on a hair trigger to cash out without taking a big haircut anyways.
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