The Causes of American Gun Violence

[clubgop]

But that’s not a free market

Like sucking your own dick, it's the closest you ever going to get.

[SuburbanFarmer]

there is an understanding and promise that all other competitors would also have to follow the same rules and if not I can petition my local government for a redress of those grievances. They value my business more so than your nonexistent one.
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Negative. Or else we’d ban hot dog carts, and any other street vendor.

‘The game ‘ indeed. But that’s not a free market.

HA! If you think the hot dog carts are unregulated and uninspected you are sorely mistaken. I can guarentee it. Food trucks, same.

You really think a place that wont let you raise your cock is going to stand aside and not get a piece of you deepthroating a street sausage? You regulatory gonna get got.

Never said they were unregulated. But they aren’t paying the property tax or maintenance that you do for your retarded T-shirt store.

[C-Mag]

Note
El Paso shooter came from a broken family. His father was a drug and alcohol addict in and out of his life growing up.

[clubgop]

Negative. Or else we’d ban hot dog carts, and any other street vendor.

‘The game ‘ indeed. But that’s not a free market.

HA! If you think the hot dog carts are unregulated and uninspected you are sorely mistaken. I can guarentee it. Food trucks, same.

You really think a place that wont let you raise your cock is going to stand aside and not get a piece of you deepthroating a street sausage? You regulatory gonna get got.

Never said they were unregulated. But they aren’t paying the property tax or maintenance that you do for your retarded T-shirt store.

They just call it something else. Can you show me on the doll where the tshirt store touched you?

[SuburbanFarmer]

HA! If you think the hot dog carts are unregulated and uninspected you are sorely mistaken. I can guarentee it. Food trucks, same.

You really think a place that wont let you raise your cock is going to stand aside and not get a piece of you deepthroating a street sausage? You regulatory gonna get got.

Never said they were unregulated. But they aren’t paying the property tax or maintenance that you do for your retarded T-shirt store.

They just call it something else. Can you show me on the doll where the tshirt store touched you?

My backyard, where I can’t have chickens pecking out the pests and weeds.

My wallet, where I have to pay for genetic experiments to feed my family.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Turns out there is some science behind this.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08- ... oting-1966

[Otern]

The number one thing we could do quickly to make an impact would be to find out why there is a link with SRS Drugs and school shootings, aka Ritalin. Boys act out in school, they drug him with Ritalin, and he becomes compliant to the state run mill.

Ritalin is not an SRS drug.

[Otern]

First of all, mass shootings, as we think of them, aren't as common in the US as it's portrayed by the media. The kind of "guy goes on a rampage to kill indiscriminately, and it's not gang related or a family murder suicide"-mass shooting. It's around 40 people annually in the US. But that inflated number of 250-300 mass shootings a year, is primarily gang related. Drive bys, shooting up a party where the other gang hangs out, shooting into a drug trade corner or whatever.

Gun murders in the US looks a lot like gun murders further south. And it's why the US have a higher murder rate than other western nations. They're not really a western nation, they're an American nation.

The two most important factors driving up the murder statistics, are the gini coefficient, the lack of ethnic and cultural homogeneity. We see this with Brazil. Strict gun laws, but an extreme degree of wealth disparity among people living close to each other. Also, lots of black people. Sure, the US is way wealthier than Brazil, but the gap between "rich" and "poor" is still way bigger than the gap between "rich" and "poor" in most European countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... e_equality


A third factor might be the drug trade. Which is probably influenced by the two former factors. Americans do a shitload of drugs. Weed smoking is pushed through most movies and tv-shows as pretty normal. Their stand up comics are all drugged up. American sports is infested by doping. Then there's the legal drugs, like alcohol. It's extremely cheap over there. And it kills more people than guns, while also driving more people to committing crimes with guns. About half of all US murders are committed under the influence of alcohol.

Do guns play a role? Sure, but it's way smaller than gun control activists portray it as.

So, you have a country without ethnic and cultural homogeneity, people drink like Northern Europeans, do drugs like an aztec on a rite of passage, have lots of poor people seeing and interacting with comparably way greater wealth on a daily basis. It's 5,3 per 100 000 in the US. While it's 3 per 100 000 in Europe, and the World average is 6,3 per 100 000. The murder rate difference between the US and Europe is really not that big. I'd expect more, considering the first two factors.

[Hastur]

+1
Good post.
Sums up my take pretty well.

[Otern]

I actually think the more interesting question is why Brazil's murder rate is so god damn high.

They have an almost identical wealth distribution to the US. And they have an almost identical GDP per capita as Serbia. Still, Brazils murder rate is at 30,5 per 100 000, compared to the US' 5,3 and Serbias 1,1.

And obviously, it's not because there's more guns in Brazil. Serbia is placed sixth on gun ownership among civilians in the world. I don't think Serbia and the US have a lower murder rate than Brazil because of their guns, but obviously, a high gun ownership rate is not an important factor to increased murder rates.

So it looks like the gini coefficiency is the absolutely most important factor. Not that popular opinion among right wingers.

But then, what about Ukraine and Kazakhstan?
Homicide rate of 6,2 and 5. But wealth disparity comparable to Switzerland (0,5 homicide rate) and Iceland (0,9 homicide rate).
So it does in fact look like GDP per capita plays a role, but only when it gets really low. But this does not explain Serbia ($17555 GDPPC), which is less than Kazakhstan ($27550 GDPPC), but more than Ukraine ($9285 GDPPC). Sure looks like ethnic and cultural homogeneity is damn important too. Ukraine has 77% Ukrainians, while 67,5% are native Ukrainians speakers. While 37% of the population of Kazakhstan aren't Kazakhs. Those are some pretty large minority numbers. Serbia has 83% Serbs, while none of their minority groups are above 5%.

So, I'd rank the factors contributing to a higher murder rate this way;
Most important:
1: High wealth disparity.
2: Low ethnic and cultural homogeneity. Especially if distinct minority groups within the country are above 5%.
3: Gang related crime. (But this is more of a symptom of the first two, and of drug related production and consumption).

And somewhat important:
1: High divorce rates.
2: A higher degree of drug production and consumption.
3: A lower than world average GDP per capita.
4: Lack of public health care

Least important, but it does have a tiny effect:
1: Violent movies and video games.
2: Prescription drugs replacing therapy.
3: Less restrictive gun laws.