Public Employees Pensions Will Be To The 2nd Civil War What Slavery Was To The First

[MilSpecs]

My county is mainly served by parochial schools. We do just fine. There is a school district, but you don't want your kids going there.

We also have a charter school. They have chickens and stuff. I think they plan to add some farming for the little ones.

I guarantee you that the kids around here get a better education than most of the kids in the Chicago area. The best district, 211, is total garbage compared to one of the parochial schools here.

So the people in your county pay for private school. Add that cost to the taxes and you get closer to the real cost to live there.

Well, no.

Subtract about $6,500 from the taxes on a small condo.

School tuition for the better schools here are around $6,000.

Take the $500 dollars you saved by not having to pay for a potemkin school and buy yourself some nice shoes, or whatever makes you happy.

It's only a $500 difference between taxes for a decent public school and private school tuition?

[Fife]

Take the $500 dollars you saved by not having to pay for a potemkin school and buy yourself some nice shoes, or whatever makes you happy.

Whatever makes me happy?? That's a big window.

[Fife]

Why the hell someone would want to live in and around super populated areas is beyond me. Especially the corridor between DC and Boston. Unless your making 10s of millions fuck that. Bad thing about living in Virginia are all the transplants from up North. Its like please stay the fuck in NY,NJ, PE etc. etc. And of course all the counties surround DC are fucked and have been for a long time and now all the counties that are only 1 county away from those are fucked. Cost of living is ridiculous.

That is everywhere nice, because a high standard of living costs money.

Define "high standard of living."

Use as many words as you need.

[MilSpecs]

Why the hell someone would want to live in and around super populated areas is beyond me. Especially the corridor between DC and Boston. Unless your making 10s of millions fuck that. Bad thing about living in Virginia are all the transplants from up North. Its like please stay the fuck in NY,NJ, PE etc. etc. And of course all the counties surround DC are fucked and have been for a long time and now all the counties that are only 1 county away from those are fucked. Cost of living is ridiculous.

That is everywhere nice, because a high standard of living costs money.

Define "high standard of living."

The measurables only for this purpose, and the market tends to speak for itself.

[Fife]

That is everywhere nice, because a high standard of living costs money.

Define "high standard of living."

The measurables only for this purpose, and the market tends to speak for itself.

In English, please.

[MilSpecs]

Define "high standard of living."

The measurables only for this purpose, and the market tends to speak for itself.

In English, please.

As a libertarian, I'd think you know what the "market speaks for itself" means. Expensive places are expensive because they're desirable places to live. People look at the crime rate, access to medical care, employment availability, etc. There are actual metrics for these things, you know.

"I like it" is not generally, in and of itself, the definition of a high standard of living unless a lot of people like it. Hence the word "standard."

[Kath]

As a libertarian, I'd think you know what the "market speaks for itself" means. Expensive places are expensive because they're desirable places to live. People look at the crime rate, access to medical care, employment availability, etc. There are actual metrics for these things, you know.

"I like it" is not generally, in and of itself, the definition of a high standard of living unless a lot of people like it. Hence the word "standard."

I dunno. Expensive doesn't always mean better; it doesn't even mostly mean better.

My sister lives in a town with 2,400 people and has been crazy happy about it for most of her life. It's very inexpensive there, on our last visit, our getting out of town breakfast cost around $15 for the three of us. The coffee was terrible, though. Not, however, and indicator of better or worse.

I could never be happy living there, but who am I to say her life is less fulfilling or interesting or meaningful then mine?

I think it's horseshit to claim that everyone who pays more is living in a more desirable place. You couldn't pay me to live in Trump's gold plated puke fest in Manhattan, but by your metrics, it's one of the most desirable spots available in the world.

Also, low crime tends to be the norm where my sister lives. They don't lock their doors regularly, or at least, they don't worry if they've forgotten.

[Fife]

The measurables only for this purpose, and the market tends to speak for itself.

In English, please.

As a libertarian, I'd think you know what the "market speaks for itself" means. Expensive places are expensive because they're desirable places to live. People look at the crime rate, access to medical care, employment availability, etc. There are actual metrics for these things, you know.

"I like it" is not generally, in and of itself, the definition of a high standard of living unless a lot of people like it. Hence the word "standard."

All I was asking for you to do was to re-state your position in an English sentence.

[MilSpecs]

I dunno. Expensive doesn't always mean better; it doesn't even mostly mean better.

My sister lives in a town with 2,400 people and has been crazy happy about it for most of her life. It's very inexpensive there, on our last visit, our getting out of town breakfast cost around $15 for the three of us. The coffee was terrible, though. Not, however, and indicator of better or worse.

I could never be happy living there, but who am I to say her life is less fulfilling or interesting or meaningful then mine?

I think it's horseshit to claim that everyone who pays more is living in a more desirable place. You couldn't pay me to live in Trump's gold plated puke fest in Manhattan, but by your metrics, it's one of the most desirable spots available in the world.

Also, low crime tends to be the norm where my sister lives. They don't lock their doors regularly, or at least, they don't worry if they've forgotten.

My town was 1 mile square so big proponent of small town living, but it's just my personal preference. I'm using standard of living as an economist would. High poverty levels would lower the standard of living. Low crime rates would raise it. Expense alone wouldn't make for a high standard of living, but places with high standards of living become expensive. People want to live there and the costs go up. I feel for GOG being pushed out of those areas in Virginia, but they have high standards of living and are thus desirable, pushing up the cost and pushing out middle class people. One of the reasons I feel for him is that I was pushed out of my beloved small town by high taxes caused in part by high pensions, but I can't blame the people who were willing to pay those taxes to live in a place with a higher (collective) standard of living. Sucks for me, but that's the market at work. It had low crimes, low poverty levels, high educational levels, and proximity to employment; a high standard of living.

[doc_loliday]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/14/busi ... regon.html


A public university president in Oregon gives new meaning to the idea of a pensioner.

Joseph Robertson, an eye surgeon who retired as head of the Oregon Health & Science University last fall, receives the state’s largest government pension.

It is $76,111.

Per month.

Even Dr. Martin Hash Esquire wouldn't turn his nose to that kind of cash.

We're in wrong business gents.