The CDC Wants More Money to Eradicate ... Your Rights

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:37 am

jediuser598 wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Now, the best way to deter this sort of thing, would be a scorched earth program, where liberal gun grabbers come to understand that, if they put their federal sacred cows agencies into the path of States Rights, those agencies can and will be defunded to the point of de facto relegation, any federal agency they try to conscript into their ideological agenda, is an agency that they are imperiling in the process, the agencies themselves will understand that as well, so they will flee from the gun grabbers at the first sign of them.
Like Team Red gives a flying fuck about states rights. You see what Sessions said to California?

“There is no nullification. There is no secession. Federal law is the supreme law of the land. I would invite any doubters to go to Gettysburg, to the tombstones of John C. Calhoun and Abraham Lincoln. This matter has been settled,” he continued.

And how do you get past a democratic filibuster to defund one of their sacred cows? Hell if that's how it worked, the EPA would have been gone already. Here's the problem with your approach, That's like killing your siblings dog for a wrong they did to you. Guess what? Still gotta live in the same house as them, you're still family. You don't go all scorched earth on your brother, cause you're burning down your own house as well.
California does not have a state right to supersede federal law, there's no amendment in the constitution guaranteeing you a right to smoke dope nor hide illegal immigrants, Sessions cannot take away your right to bear arms, that is a constitutional amendment, but he can arrest you for smoking wacky tobbacky, and he can come and arrest the Mexican you are hiding from ICE too, who fuckin' knew, boo fuckin' hoo, you're bleeding heart feelzy, as per usual, but you have no case whatsoever under the rule of law, nor logic in fact.

Pretty simple;

Possess military firearms; that's a right, in the constitution.

Smoke dope and protect illegal immigrants from deportation; not a right, the constitution says you're not actually within your rights there.

Now, because you refuse to acknowledge that distinction, and rather place your feelz above the rule of law, that's where I would say your ideological opponents would be reasonable in determining this to be an intractable impasse, at which point, you leave the way open for a mandate to defeat you by whatever means necessary, up to and including force.

Making up shit that ain't in the constitution, and asserting it to be an unassailable position, based on feelz alone? That's a double edged sword, best be prepared to liquidate thine enemies in that paradigm, before they liquidate you, allz I'm sayun.

I'm not the one throwing the constitution away, your lefties are doing that, I'm just the one who is pointing out, that once they do that, what's stopping anybody from chopping their heads of with an entrenching tool or chucking their commie asses out of a helicopter?

It's like, I've seen mass graves, up close and personal, the bleached bones of bourgeois liberal intellectuals in the mud, and my impression at the time was; guess they never saw that coming, not so clever after all, them bourgeois liberal intellectuals, make a note.
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Re: The CDC Wants More Money to Eradicate ... Your Rights

Post by kybkh » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:17 am

Let’s ass some of the thousands of teenagers do so stupid shit in DC. Maybe even wind ups getting killed. Who is to blame? CNN? Hogg? Teachers? Celebrities?
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Re: The CDC Wants More Money to Eradicate ... Your Rights

Post by Zlaxer » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:39 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Now, the best way to deter this sort of thing, would be a scorched earth program, where liberal gun grabbers come to understand that, if they put their federal sacred cows agencies into the path of States Rights, those agencies can and will be defunded to the point of de facto relegation, any federal agency they try to conscript into their ideological agenda, is an agency that they are imperiling in the process, the agencies themselves will understand that as well, so they will flee from the gun grabbers at the first sign of them.
Like Team Red gives a flying fuck about states rights. You see what Sessions said to California?

“There is no nullification. There is no secession. Federal law is the supreme law of the land. I would invite any doubters to go to Gettysburg, to the tombstones of John C. Calhoun and Abraham Lincoln. This matter has been settled,” he continued.

And how do you get past a democratic filibuster to defund one of their sacred cows? Hell if that's how it worked, the EPA would have been gone already. Here's the problem with your approach, That's like killing your siblings dog for a wrong they did to you. Guess what? Still gotta live in the same house as them, you're still family. You don't go all scorched earth on your brother, cause you're burning down your own house as well.
California does not have a state right to supersede federal law, there's no amendment in the constitution guaranteeing you a right to smoke dope nor hide illegal immigrants, Sessions cannot take away your right to bear arms, that is a constitutional amendment, but he can arrest you for smoking wacky tobbacky, and he can come and arrest the Mexican you are hiding from ICE too, who fuckin' knew, boo fuckin' hoo, you're bleeding heart feelzy, as per usual, but you have no case whatsoever under the rule of law, nor logic in fact.

Pretty simple;

Possess military firearms; that's a right, in the constitution.

Smoke dope and protect illegal immigrants from deportation; not a right, the constitution says you're not actually within your rights there.

Now, because you refuse to acknowledge that distinction, and rather place your feelz above the rule of law, that's where I would say your ideological opponents would be reasonable in determining this to be an intractable impasse, at which point, you leave the way open for a mandate to defeat you by whatever means necessary, up to and including force.

Making up shit that ain't in the constitution, and asserting it to be an unassailable position, based on feelz alone? That's a double edged sword, best be prepared to liquidate thine enemies in that paradigm, before they liquidate you, allz I'm sayun.

I'm not the one throwing the constitution away, your lefties are doing that, I'm just the one who is pointing out, that once they do that, what's stopping anybody from chopping their heads of with an entrenching tool or chucking their commie asses out of a helicopter?

It's like, I've seen mass graves, up close and personal, the bleached bones of bourgeois liberal intellectuals in the mud, and my impression at the time was; guess they never saw that coming, not so clever after all, them bourgeois liberal intellectuals, make a note.
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Re: The CDC Wants More Money to Eradicate ... Your Rights

Post by Zlaxer » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:43 am

DBTrek wrote:
Dem calls for CDC to immediately begin gun violence research

Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) is calling on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to begin research into gun violence immediately, following a new clarification from Congress.

Markey is calling for the research, long a priority for Democrats, after the new government funding legislation passed by Congress included language clarifying that existing restrictions do not prevent the agency from researching the causes of gun violence, only from actively advocating for gun control. . .

. . . "We believe we’ve got a very important mission with our work with serious mental illness as well as our ability to do research on the causes of violence and the causes behind tragedies like this so that is a priority for us especially at the Centers for Disease Control," Azar said.

Markey, though, now wants the research to actually commence.

Top appropriators in the House and Senate on Thursday said they did not want to produce federal funding specifically for research into the causes of gun violence.

They noted that the CDC is provided funding for research and is free to do research on what the agency deems necessary.

We’ve increased the NIH research budget by 23 percent in three years. If they want to do gun research, they have plenty of money to do it,” Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), a member of the Senate Appropriations Committee, said.


http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/37 ... e-research
Let’s put aside the fact that “GUN” isn’t any disease I’ve ever heard of, for a moment. This federal bureaucracy got a 23% funding increase over the last three years, and Democrats want to give them even more cash specifically to advance their anti-gun agenda?

Because the CDC’s original funding plus 23% more isn’t enough for them to study the matter? Or wait ... could it possibly be that firearms aren’t a disease, and therefore no matter how much money we shovel in their coffers they’ll never get around to studying non-diseases?

Unless, of course ... we give them extra special money that can only be used to study what they otherwise have no business studying.

Jeez.
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Re: The CDC Wants More Money to Eradicate ... Your Rights

Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:48 am

MilSpecs wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:
Mortality is usually not a wall; it's a road.
Yeah, and as it gets to the point of being in the clutches of the medical professionals to the bitter end, you veer off the overpass like the General Lee in the Dukes of Hazzard, before they can Boss Hogg you into a sickly deathbed.
Everybody thinks that, but the end of the road is rarely that clear.

This is why we need moderate pragmatists in government. Else you get hotheads who want to raze the infrastructure, breed illiterates, put the military in charge of everything, and let diseases run rampant while they run around with popguns yelling 'freedom!' Iike it's a feeling held by a small group instead of a responsibility shared by everyone.
I love it when they think it's time for them to be honest.

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Post by MilSpecs » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:31 am

Smitty-48 wrote:I mean, anybody who has been following the thread will note, as soon as the liberal sacred cow of the CDC was even mentioned for possible rationalization, Milspecs the Blue Team hack said what, again?

"ZOMG pandemics!"

Even tho the only real pandemic threat would be emergent influenza, which, the CDC does not have a cure for, she pulled the panic lever reflexively, and went all the way to doomsday as a partisan wedge.

Bait and switch, the CDC is doing what now? Gun Control.

The Second Amendment as "pandemic", and Milspecs is all for it; Blue Team sacred cow.

They can't get a constitutional amendment, but there is no limits to the variations of doomsday they will invoke to get around that, up to and including equating firearms with weaponized smallpox or some such shit. lol.

This is why Blue Team wants the CDC to be in charge of this instead of the military, the CDC is their ideological lapdog, the Pentagon is not.

In the CBRN biz, everybody knows how this works, USAMRIID is the operational animal, spends all its time preparing to fight a war against pathogens, CDC is the political animal, spends all its time coming up with rubrics for Blue Team to expand the nanny state.
You're making up boogiemen, Smitty. Like most Americans, I'm in favor of the Second, although the well-regulated militia part is apparently beyond Toddler Nation's attention span. Same thing with the likelihood of attack by microorganism vs. armed attackers.

You can go on about the CDC being 'political,' but the germ doesn't care how you feel about the matter, nor will the failing arteries nor the rapidly multiplying malignancy.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:01 am

MilSpecs wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:I mean, anybody who has been following the thread will note, as soon as the liberal sacred cow of the CDC was even mentioned for possible rationalization, Milspecs the Blue Team hack said what, again?

"ZOMG pandemics!"

Even tho the only real pandemic threat would be emergent influenza, which, the CDC does not have a cure for, she pulled the panic lever reflexively, and went all the way to doomsday as a partisan wedge.

Bait and switch, the CDC is doing what now? Gun Control.

The Second Amendment as "pandemic", and Milspecs is all for it; Blue Team sacred cow.

They can't get a constitutional amendment, but there is no limits to the variations of doomsday they will invoke to get around that, up to and including equating firearms with weaponized smallpox or some such shit. lol.

This is why Blue Team wants the CDC to be in charge of this instead of the military, the CDC is their ideological lapdog, the Pentagon is not.

In the CBRN biz, everybody knows how this works, USAMRIID is the operational animal, spends all its time preparing to fight a war against pathogens, CDC is the political animal, spends all its time coming up with rubrics for Blue Team to expand the nanny state.
You're making up boogiemen, Smitty. Like most Americans, I'm in favor of the Second, although the well-regulated militia part is apparently beyond Toddler Nation's attention span. Same thing with the likelihood of attack by microorganism vs. armed attackers.

You can go on about the CDC being 'political,' but the germ doesn't care how you feel about the matter, nor will the failing arteries nor the rapidly multiplying malignancy.
Can you feel the scorn and spite coming out of the screen?

Go fuck yourself. You get nothing.
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Re: The CDC Wants More Money to Eradicate ... Your Rights

Post by MilSpecs » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:08 am

Try throwing yourself on the floor and kicking and screaming. Holding your breath until you turn blue is another option.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:12 am

Shouldn't you be out marching with ooky?
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Post by Fife » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:17 am

Okeefenokee wrote:Shouldn't you be out marching with ooky?
Which one is it today? The pussy-hats or the 16 year old constitutional / Tide pod experts?