Tax Plan For Aristocracy

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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:47 am

Kath wrote:Would you please quit pretending I have opinions I don't actually have.
Only if you stop first. An eye for an eye, you want to call a truce? Fine by me. You want to keep putting words in my mouth, I'm better at it than you are.
You call the playing field, I'll win on either court.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:58 am

Blame America, not just it's politicians and special interests, but the electorate too. If you already do, cool, if not, whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Post by K@th » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:11 am

StCapps wrote:Blame America, not just it's politicians and special interests, but the electorate too. If you already do, cool, if not, whatever helps you sleep at night.
/shrugs
I completely blame the proles for continuing to put these asshats back in office, term after term after term.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:11 am

Kath wrote:
StCapps wrote:Blame America, not just it's politicians and special interests, but the electorate too. If you already do, cool, if not, whatever helps you sleep at night.
/shrugs
I completely blame the proles for continuing to put these asshats back in office, term after term after term.
Then why are you saying none of them voted for that stuff, they clearly did, it wasn't just the aristocracy voting for that stuff, they had mad allies, many of whom voted against their own interests. Some folks just be jealous and lashing out at the aristocracy for being better about voting in it's own interests, which is not really productive, perhaps the solution is for the lower classes to get it's shit together when it comes to voting in it's own interests, and not get tricked into thinking the best way to do that is with Robin Hood Economics. Now there's an idea.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by PartyOf5 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:15 am

Kath wrote:Would you please quit pretending I have opinions I don't actually have.
C'mon Kath. This is the exact thing you are doing to others in this very thread, and yet you balk at the idea someone might be doing it to you. You even complained about this kind of thing in another thread while at the same time doing that thing here. :naughty:

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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by K@th » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:17 am

StCapps wrote: You're not just jealous and lashing out at the aristocracy for being better about voting in it's own interests, right?
Well, we're actually more upper class than middle class, tbh. I don't want to take away rich people's money. But, the system is rigged and it's rigged by the people with the most, to benefit the people with the most.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:19 am

Kath wrote:
StCapps wrote: You're not just jealous and lashing out at the aristocracy for being better about voting in it's own interests, right?
Well, we're actually more upper class than middle class, tbh. I don't want to take away rich people's money. But, the system is rigged and it's rigged by the people with the most, to benefit the people with the most.
Indeed but the better solution is to rig the game so that the those with less can benefit more when they earn it, as opposed to rigging the game so that those with more can benefit less when they earn it. See what I'm getting at?
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by K@th » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:22 am

StCapps wrote:Indeed but the better solution is to rig the game so that the those with less can benefit more when they earn it, as opposed to rigging the game so that those with more can benefit less when they earn it. See what I'm getting at?
I'd prefer it not be rigged at all. I'd prefer Hillary Clinton not have the power to take over the DNC before she was the nominee. I'd prefer if Monsanto couldn't sue a neighboring farm when Monsanto seeds fly over to the other farm. I'd prefer the FDA had the power to recall tainted meat.

There's a lot of things I'd prefer, actually, in the nature of a level playing field.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:25 am

Kath wrote:I'd prefer it not be rigged at all.
Wishful thinking. These are human societies we are talking about here, better to deal with problems that can never be eliminated accordingly and work to reduce them as much as is optimal, not pretend a utopia can be achieved. You are more likely to eliminate the aristocracy altogether than unrig the game once and for all, neither of which are possible, don't be naive. You can reduce the rigging to some degree, but never eliminate entirely.

You have to improve your ability to filter your idealism through a better sense of realpolitik, or you'll never get the results you are looking for. Asking for the impossible, is a waste of time and resources, reality has certain perimeters that can't be ignored, best to color within those lines when coming up with policy proposals. Gotta be pragmatic, if the theory doesn't work so well in practice, adapt accordingly.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by PartyOf5 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:37 am

An inheritance tax is a double-dip taxation on the same money. It either already got taxed, or will be taxed when those that inherited the money are required to pull it out of pre-tax accounts (minimum distribution).