Self-Defense: The Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

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Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:51 am

Martin Hash wrote:One Bubba on the 32nd floor seemed quite effective.
At going all Colonel Kurtz off the rez. That shit don't win no wars.
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Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Post by Martin Hash » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:00 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:One Bubba on the 32nd floor seemed quite effective.
At going all Colonel Kurtz off the rez. That shit don't win no wars.
When the shit hits the fan, it will all be the rez.
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Post by Ex-California » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:12 am

clubgop wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Meh, I don't think the cities would collapse, that's just Red Staters projecting their fantasy of what would happen, I think the Blue Staters would be powerful, the Red Staters would be at a strategic disadvantage whatever tactical and operational prowess they could muster, I think the Blue Imperial Hegenomy would still be based in Manhattan, as for the Red State Rebel Alliance?

Peterson AFB Colorado, Cheyenne Mountain, of course.
Take a look at Manhattan on a map, a few hundred troops blocking 2 tunnels, 3 bridges and you have 10 million in a box. Red states have factories sitting dormant ready to make shit. The red states are food and energy, the blue states can't even cook a can of beans without us. Look at California if not for Red states they would not gas, no oil refinery, no power, and no fucking water, so no food.
???

We have refineries everywhere, power everywhere, and grow most of the food for the country.

Water is only a problem in the LA megapolis, and even then, we could divert water from up north instead of the Colorado river
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Re: Self-Defense: The Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

Post by Fife » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:54 am

Back to the original topic:

Consider why prohibition never works. And cannot, a priori, work. The folly of prohibiting guns is as stupid as prohibiting alcohol, weed, &c. Lots more stupid, actually.

David L. Burkhead: Why gun control cannot work
None of that even considers how you’re going to get rid of the existing more (some think a lot more) than three hundred million guns already in private hands in the US.

The simple truth is, you can’t. Furthermore Americans, and particularly American gun owners, wont’s stand for it. See the non-compliance examples up above. While some might, a large fraction of gun owners simply will not give up their guns willingly. We’re not Great Britain. We’re not Australia. Neither of those countries have the history of resistance to government and passion for individual liberty that’s bred into Americans despite the efforts of some forces to stamp it out. Cultures, when placed under stress, tend to revert to their founding myths (see “Revitalization Movements” in cultural anthropology). Our founding myths include such things as “I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give my Liberty or give me death” and “Stand your ground. Don’t fire unless fired upon. But if they mean to have a war, let it begin here” (in response to an attempt by the government to confiscate arms, I might add).

. . .

That leaves force, sending armed men (armed with guns) to collect up the guns. Only, you don’t know where they are. That’s one of the reason gun owners have been so resistant to anything like universal registration. And if you do, well:

Gun owners in this country outnumber police by 100 to one.

They outnumber the military by close to that.

They outnumber military, reserves, and guard combined by about 30 to one.

They outnumber the combined militaries and government paramilitary organizations of the entire world by more than 2 to one.
We don't give a flying fuck how they do things in the UK, Australia, or Canada; or what the government thinks in D.C., Manhattan, Boston, San Francisco, especially not Chicago, or anywhere else for that matter.

Americans have not one fuck to give what the state feels.

And ZERO fucks are there to give about any tards wanting to take away the right of self-defense.

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Post by Montegriffo » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:24 am

Wow, that's some seriously scared people. Life is so dangerous they need to take their guns shopping. Sucks to be them.
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Post by DBTrek » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:25 am

What's a lolb though?
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Post by C-Mag » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:33 am

Montegriffo wrote:Wow, that's some seriously scared people. Life is so dangerous they need to take their guns shopping. Sucks to be them.

Dan Carlin put it best years ago on the subject of guns and America. If you didn't grow up in the Culture you likely will never understand it, probably revile it. It's like trying to understand the cultural significance of eating Whale in Japan.

The way I try to get people to understand this is, it's not fear that makes US culture the most armed society in the world. It's part of our heritage, it's where we draw the line against government overreach. While the events of the original Patriots Day, April 19th, 1775 are not talked about much anymore, you have to understand what happened there to understand even have a chance at understanding this. Americans had there Free Speech infringed on, there houses occupied by Soldiers, there elected judges replaced by agents of the crown and it's people killed. They were willing to absorb all that. But the moment the Crown moved to take away our weapons we revolted. It was not the Continental politicians that revolted either, it was the people.

All culturals have there idiosyncrasies, one of out big ones happens to be firearms.
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Post by DBTrek » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:35 am

You might want to start by explaining what a culture is. Not all of our users are American, some are from Europe and Canada.
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Post by C-Mag » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:39 am

DBTrek wrote:You might want to start by explaining what a culture is. Not all of our users are American, some are from Europe and Canada.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:56 am

Fife wrote:Back to the original topic:

Consider why prohibition never works. And cannot, a priori, work. The folly of prohibiting guns is as stupid as prohibiting alcohol, weed, &c. Lots more stupid, actually.

David L. Burkhead: Why gun control cannot work
None of that even considers how you’re going to get rid of the existing more (some think a lot more) than three hundred million guns already in private hands in the US.

The simple truth is, you can’t. Furthermore Americans, and particularly American gun owners, wont’s stand for it. See the non-compliance examples up above. While some might, a large fraction of gun owners simply will not give up their guns willingly. We’re not Great Britain. We’re not Australia. Neither of those countries have the history of resistance to government and passion for individual liberty that’s bred into Americans despite the efforts of some forces to stamp it out. Cultures, when placed under stress, tend to revert to their founding myths (see “Revitalization Movements” in cultural anthropology). Our founding myths include such things as “I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give my Liberty or give me death” and “Stand your ground. Don’t fire unless fired upon. But if they mean to have a war, let it begin here” (in response to an attempt by the government to confiscate arms, I might add).

. . .

That leaves force, sending armed men (armed with guns) to collect up the guns. Only, you don’t know where they are. That’s one of the reason gun owners have been so resistant to anything like universal registration. And if you do, well:

Gun owners in this country outnumber police by 100 to one.

They outnumber the military by close to that.

They outnumber military, reserves, and guard combined by about 30 to one.

They outnumber the combined militaries and government paramilitary organizations of the entire world by more than 2 to one.
We don't give a flying fuck how they do things in the UK, Australia, or Canada; or what the government thinks in D.C., Manhattan, Boston, San Francisco, especially not Chicago, or anywhere else for that matter.

Americans have not one fuck to give what the state feels.

And ZERO fucks are there to give about any tards wanting to take away the right of self-defense.

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3D printing is going to make this a moot point anyway. People in the near future will likely be able to print all the components to a firearm and what components the printer cannot produce will be fabricated from common materials. Those 3D printers are going to dwarf the Gutenberg press in terms of impact on society.