BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by SilverEagle » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:45 am

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Let them, because the fact is that it's the person, not the gun that is the issue, but meh, what do I know. Doing away with the second amendment won't do squat, as proven with other countries, they will find a way.

We need to know more about this person before we do anything else if my sources are correct. He was soon to be a divorcee, and he also had a lawsuit against a casino since 2011.

He had his pilot licenses, and I've been having a hard time finding much else, but if this other person is a "companion" then knowing more about her would be ideal, especially since one of the last shootings we had in the US had a "female companion" as well...

This could be a lone shooter type concept, which I hope it is... but if not, we are going to have larger problems sooner than later.
It's the person with an automatic rifle capable of shooting over 250 people who is the problem.
This wasn't carried out with a hunting rifle.
If you are going to insist that these types of weapons are available to the general public then you have to accept that this will happen again.
It is one hole you need to put into a semi-auto to make it a full-auto. It's not difficult, so to say the person with the gun that is the issue... it's the person, not the gun.

Full-Auto weapons aren't available to the general public, when will you get that through your head? You need to either know someone who is willing to get you one illegally or have a collectors/seller's license. Full-Auto guns are highly regulated.

A gun cannot shoot itself, it needs human interaction to do so. So I will say again, the problem is the person, not the weapon.
You have to have a class III license to legal own a full auto. Also I don't think you can own a full auto produced after 1986, I could be wrong on that, so they will be less of them as time moves on. Also this is an old technology so it does not matter what laws you pass, if a nut job wants to do what this guy did there is no real way of stopping it. Like others have said, I would like to know if he was on meds and if so what were they? Do not be surprised if trump signs some kind of gun ban in the near future. It would not shock me in the least bit.
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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:52 am

Another Bernie bro trying to murder conservatives?

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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by Ex-California » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:55 am

I'm starting to doubt the numbers.

What kind of weapon could do this kind of damage? We're talking Western Front rate of casualty here
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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by The Conservative » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:58 am

SilverEagle wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
It's the person with an automatic rifle capable of shooting over 250 people who is the problem.
This wasn't carried out with a hunting rifle.
If you are going to insist that these types of weapons are available to the general public then you have to accept that this will happen again.
It is one hole you need to put into a semi-auto to make it a full-auto. It's not difficult, so to say the person with the gun that is the issue... it's the person, not the gun.

Full-Auto weapons aren't available to the general public, when will you get that through your head? You need to either know someone who is willing to get you one illegally or have a collectors/seller's license. Full-Auto guns are highly regulated.

A gun cannot shoot itself, it needs human interaction to do so. So I will say again, the problem is the person, not the weapon.
You have to have a class III license to legal own a full auto. Also I don't think you can own a full auto produced after 1986, I could be wrong on that, so they will be less of them as time moves on. Also this is an old technology so it does not matter what laws you pass, if a nut job wants to do what this guy did there is no real way of stopping it. Like others have said, I would like to know if he was on meds and if so what were they? Do not be surprised if trump signs some kind of gun ban in the near future. It would not shock me in the least bit.
You can have a Class III, but depending on the state, it won't matter, it's illegal under all but a handful of circumstances. I live in Mass, trust me I've looked into it.

As for meds, you go through a divorce and a lawsuit against a casino and tell me how your sanity would sit?
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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by Ex-California » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:58 am

Maybe not

If he had something large caliber like a .308 with drums or something plus if you figure single bullets penetrating multiple people the numbers start to make more sense.

Probably more of the injuries and death were from stampede?
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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:59 am

California wrote:I'm starting to doubt the numbers.

What kind of weapon could do this kind of damage? We're talking Western Front rate of casualty here

A shotgun in a crowded theater would do it. The media would play up the "assault rifle angle even if most of the casualties were from a shotgun.

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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by The Conservative » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:00 am

California wrote:I'm starting to doubt the numbers.

What kind of weapon could do this kind of damage? We're talking Western Front rate of casualty here
You hear the audio if the shots? It sounded like an extended clip being reloaded a few times, or weapons swapped out... to me the casualties don't all have to be gun related, people stormed a fence down, they could be injury/death-by-proxy.
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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by SilverEagle » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:07 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
California wrote:I'm starting to doubt the numbers.

What kind of weapon could do this kind of damage? We're talking Western Front rate of casualty here

A shotgun in a crowded theater would do it. The media would play up the "assault rifle angle even if most of the casualties were from a shotgun.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Okay you are officially retarded.
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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:07 am

SilverEagle wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
California wrote:I'm starting to doubt the numbers.

What kind of weapon could do this kind of damage? We're talking Western Front rate of casualty here

A shotgun in a crowded theater would do it. The media would play up the "assault rifle angle even if most of the casualties were from a shotgun.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Okay you are officially retarded.
Okay. I guess. Whatever.

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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by SilverEagle » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:10 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
SilverEagle wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

A shotgun in a crowded theater would do it. The media would play up the "assault rifle angle even if most of the casualties were from a shotgun.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Okay you are officially retarded.
Okay. I guess. Whatever.
The problem with your assumption is the capacity of shotguns in general.
There is a time for good men to do bad things.

For fuck sake, 1984 is NOT an instruction manual!

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