There shall be a movie called Iraqi Sniper...

[Smitty-48]

Hurt Locker was boring, didn't go anywhere, didn't have a plot, "wanh-wanh, I'm EOD, the end" Zzzzz.

Not to mention the only people who didn't roll their eyes at it for complete horseshit on realism were civies.

Well, in terms of plot, I don't even need realistic, in fact, all the Iraqistan movies are too realistic, I mean, Apocalypse Now is Heart of Darkness, it's just set in "Vietnam", although really it's the Phillipines, but they did get the actual "Air Cav" from the Phillipine Army, so that's realistic, realistic in a technical sense, but then of course at the end of the movie a US Army Captain chops the head off a US Army Colonel, so, you know, not so realistic, but who cares? It's the greatest fuckin war movie ever...

I mean, it's art, it's not a docudrama, but everything now; is a docudrama, but it's all the same, and it's all boring

Go ahead and stretch the bounds of realistic, make it interesting, as long as it's done artfully, if you can pull it off, go for it, but enough with the MSNBC documelodramas, it's giving war movies a bad name, they're all like an episode of CNN reports, when everybody already saw the CNN reports on it, in real time, and the movie version is even more boring than the CNN reports, because of course it has to preachy and lecturing about it.

[Smitty-48]

Another example would be First Blood, like, totally unrealistic, John Rambo is not a real person, he's a metaphor, it's art, and it works, it's a great war movie, even though that war never happened, or at least, never happened exactly like that, but everybody gets it, everybody knows who John Rambo is, same way they know who Josey Wales is, even though there never really was a Josey Wales neither.

[Hwen Hoshino]

The Iraqi's don't stand a chance, the Hollywood Liberal Panty Waists make the best war movies, it's not even a contest, although, there hasn't been a really good GWOT movie yet, I thought American Sniper sucked ass, that was total cheese, the only GWOT movie I've liked so far was actually 13 Hours, that was surprisingly good.

Everyone stands a chance for making a great war movie.

Nah, not everyone, it's a very exclusive club, the Australians are in the club, but even the Australians employ the HLPW's on their productions, nobody can compete with Hollywood, Hollywood invented this shit, they're the masters.

No Asian country can match the Aussies. Get the flying fuck out of here. Based on what information? Because Canada invented basketball they are masters at it?

China, Japan, and South Korea have some good action films, dude.

The weird thing is that Chinese propaganda is pretty tame in some of these films. Ip Man, for example, portrayed the Japanese as fare more humane than they really were. That one is still puzzling, but maybe they just wanted to market it to a wider audience.

Those movies are proabably PG 13.

Everyone stands a chance for making a great war movie.

Nah, not everyone, it's a very exclusive club, the Australians are in the club, but even the Australians employ the HLPW's on their productions, nobody can compete with Hollywood, Hollywood invented this shit, they're the masters.

Hwen is in denial about the quality of Korean movies. He actually thinks they are in the same league as American/British ones. The only Korean movie I saw that wasnt complete shit was Memories of Murder, and even that film was not American tier. Poor guy likes anime and bollywood. His tastes are lacking.

Britian is cranking out blockbuster war movies now? In which universe?

What other Korean movies have you tried watching? i guess none?

Everyone loves him some anime if he tries the right ones. Bollywood is an aquired taste and India is improiving in terms of movies. Great investment for my movie cred. Waht's so bad about Gangs of Wasseypur?

I mean, the HLPW's basically said; it has to be all Beta Males naow, we can't have a Kilgore, we can't have a Barnes, we can't have a Hartman, because the troops love them, the troops love an Alpha, so if you have any Alpha's at all, it will be a recruitment film, so it has to be all Beta Male Neckbeard Faggots, and they can only say "wanh-wanh", otherwise, it's not Panty Waist, and it backfires.

Problem being, it's boring as all shit, and it's actually the troops who love the war movies, if you don't make the war movies for the troops, then don't bother, because you're not going to make any money, unless you give them what they want, and they do not want Betas, period, end of story.

Even in American Sniper, even with Clint Eastwood, they Betafied the shit out of that, the American Sniper was a total weenie, Hurt Locker, more Beta, another wanh-wanh Beta douche. Boring, boring, boring, all "wanh-wanh" and no "Charlie don't surf", just makes them shrug and walk away.

Ponderous comtemplative ambigious anti-heroes; Zzzzzzzzz. It's not even true, that's not even the truth of it, that's what the HLPW's think the troops should be like, but that's not really what they're like, so nobody connects with it, Bradley Cooper was nothing like Chris Kyle, Chris Kyle was a Kilgore, he wasn't an anti-hero, he thought he was John Wayne.

They're not going to make any money, until they go back to the Epic Alphas; Kilgore, Barnes, Hartman, or don't waste our motherfuckin' time.

You do know the neocons could be extinct anytime now along with their dumbass war love?

[Smitty-48]

You do know the neocons could be extinct anytime now along with their dumbass war love?

Nonsense, Neoconservatives are really just liberal hawks, which is by far and away the dominant strain in American politics, despite all the blubbering from leftist wannabe commies and lolberg austistic screechers, generally in internet forum backwaters such as this, the Neocons are alive and well and actually in ascendance; for all intents and purposes politically relevant, they are totally unchallenged by the fringes on either the left or the right, the Silent Majority is quite healthy and in fact running things as per usual, and in fact, once they've grown up, the vast, vast majority of Millenials will become Neconservatives and as a result the new Silent Majority.

The revolution will not be televised; because they don't televise that which does not happen.

[Hwen Hoshino]

You do know the neocons could be extinct anytime now along with their dumbass war love?

Nonsense, Neoconservatives are really just liberal hawks, which is by far and away the dominant strain in American politics, despite all the blubbering from leftist wannabe commies and lolberg austistic screechers, generally in internet forum backwaters such as this, the Neocons are alive and well and actually in ascendance; for all intents and purposes politically relevant, they are totally unchallenged by the fringes on either the left or the right, the Silent Majority is quite healthy and in fact running things as per usual, and in fact, once they've grown up, the vast, vast majority of Millenials will become Neconservatives and as a result the new Silent Majority.

The revolution will not be televised; because they don't televise that which does not happen.

They sure as fuck were irrelevant in the last election.

[Smitty-48]

They sure as fuck were irrelevant in the last election.

Two Neoconservative parties faced off with two neoconservative candidates, and the neoconservatives won. '

You apparently live in a delusional fantasy world fed by your own autistic screeching on the internet inciting you to drink you own bathwater, who knew?

The difference between Donald Trump and Ronald Reagan and is that Donald Trump is rude and Ronald Reagan was polite, but other than that, there's no real daylight between them.

[Hwen Hoshino]

They sure as fuck were irrelevant in the last election.

Two Neoconservative parties faced off with two neoconservative candidates, and the neoconservatives won. '

You apparently live in a delusional fantasy world fed by your own autistic screeching on the internet inciting you to drink you own bathwater, who knew?

The difference between Donald Trump and Ronald Reagan and is that Donald Trump is rude and Ronald Reagan was polite, but other than that, there's no real daylight between them.

They sure as fuck were reluctant to talk abpout a lot of the neocon project bs stuff.

[Smitty-48]

They sure as fuck were reluctant to talk abpout a lot of the neocon project bs stuff.

No they weren't, they simply repackaged it around an economic nationalist populism, put their fingers in the wind to judge the mood, then customized their pitch to the rubes appropriately, you probably don't even know what neoconservative really means, more likely you just throw it around as a general epithet inaccurately, which probably means you're a Millenial, and therefore are totally ignorant as to what you're actually prattling on about.

The first Neoconservative President was Nixon, the next Neoconservative President was Reagan, Donald Trump is simply a hybrid of Nixon and Reagan, which makes him about as Neoconservative as you can get.

Who designed this whole campaign? Oh, Roger Stone? He's the Machiavelli of the Neoconservatives by the way, in case you didn't get the memo. Roger Stone is Donald Trump's svengali, and who is Roger Stone's idol? Oh, Richard Nixon? Yeah, the Neoconservatives are alive and well, plain to see.

Donald Trump is such a perfect hybrid of Nixon and Reagan, his secret service callsign should be "Tricky Dutch".

[Hwen Hoshino]

They sure as fuck were reluctant to talk abpout a lot of the neocon project bs stuff.

No they weren't, they simply repackaged it around an economic nationalist populism, put their fingers in the wind to judge the mood, then customized their pitch to the rubes appropriately, you probably don't even know what neoconservative really means, more likely you just throw it around as a general epithet inaccurately, which probably means you're a Millenial, and therefore are totally ignorant as to what you're actually prattling on about.

The first Neoconservative President was Nixon, the next Neoconservative President was Reagan, Donald Trump is simply a hybrid of Nixon and Reagan, which makes him about as Neoconservative as you can get.

Who designed this whole campaign? Oh, Roger Stone? He's the Machiavelli of the Neoconservatives by the way, in case you didn't get the memo. Roger Stone is Donald Trump's svengali, and who is Roger Stone's idol? Oh, Richard Nixon? Yeah, the Neoconservatives are alive and well, plain to see.

Donald Trump is such a perfect hybrid of Nixon and Reagan, his secret service callsign should be "Tricky Dutch".

Tell me how popular his dumbass will be if he starts a big war?

[Smitty-48]

Tell me how popular his dumbass will be if he starts a big war?

If he starts a big war it will be by accident, and in the event of a big war, the Silent Majority will take a long, long time before they break ranks and start to question it, I mean, yeah, Americans lost their taste for Vietnam, but not in 1965, and even by 1973, the Silent Majority hadn't collapsed, never really did actually, despite all the caterwauling from the far left, the Silent Majority hung in there, Nixon won two majorities, one by a landslide, and the landslide came, even after he invaded Cambodia.

The whole Post Iraq syndrome is wearing off already, the next Vietnam is already on the horizon, these lulls of war weariness in America, they don't actually last that long.

I mean, America was war weary with Korea by 1953, by 1953 America had had its fill of Korea, so how long did that last? Oh, twelve years? So when did the US pull out of Iraq? Twelve years after that; you're good to go for another war.

Like, what? You think Iraq is going to be America's last war? lol.

Even the catastrophe of Vietnam, how long was it before that wore off and America got into another big war? 1975-1990? 15 years, that's how long Post Vietnam syndrome lasted; and Iraq was a cakewalk compared to Vietnam, so if Vietnam only gave America pause for 15 years, then America's next big war is right around the corner already.

Let's put it this way, whether it's Trump or the next guy, I wouldn't get too comfortable if I was Iran, I got a sneaking suspicion that they are still at the top of the hit list, and the Neocons are just looking for the right time to strike...