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[TheReal_ND]

The Tories are internationalists. Being right of center doesn't make you a nationalist. Monte is right to point out that nationalist parties are not successful in British politics, because they aren't. Those are the facts.

http://traditionalbritain.org/
I was making a joke. If you check my link they are a different kind of Torie.

Also this #Macronleaks stuff was the first thing I heard today when I turned on NPR :snicker:

[StCapps]

The Tories are internationalists. Being right of center doesn't make you a nationalist. Monte is right to point out that nationalist parties are not successful in British politics, because they aren't. Those are the facts.

That is all pre Brexit. Right now through the lense of remain or leave. Leavers are in control. A Tory vote is a vote for Brexit. As far as UKIP's failure from an outsider perspective is a victim of one's success. They have fullfilled their purpose accomplished their mission and there shan't be any creeping. I wish all other government functions worked that way.

Many Tories voted against Brexit. UKIP has not succeeded in flipping the Tories to the nationalist camp, the establishment of the party is still pro-Remain.

[StCapps]

The Tories are internationalists. Being right of center doesn't make you a nationalist. Monte is right to point out that nationalist parties are not successful in British politics, because they aren't. Those are the facts.

http://traditionalbritain.org/
I was making a joke. If you check my link they are a different kind of Torie.

Also this #Macronleaks stuff was the first thing I heard today when I turned on NPR :snicker:

Traditional Britain are a small subset of Red Tories in the UK. I am a Red Tory, but they are minority within the Conservative Party, in both Canada and Britain, the establishment Tories are all Internationalist Blue Tories. Thems the breaks.

[TheReal_ND]

Huh

[StCapps]

Huh

Blue Tories love high levels of immigration and multi-lateral trade deals, as much as the Liberal establishment. They didn't back Leave, they backed Remain. David Cameron is a Blue Tory.

Which Canadian PM negotiated and signed NAFTA? Brian Mulroney, Blue Tory.
Which Canadian PM allowed the highest numbers of immigrants per year before Trudeau? Stephen Harper, Blue Tory.

[TheReal_ND]

Well I understand the similarities to our GOP there

Rather, I should say etablishment republicans. The GOP is more of an amalgamation.

[StCapps]

Well I understand the similarities to our GOP there

Rather, I should say etablishment republicans. The GOP is more of an amalgamation.

Blue Tories are like Margaret Thatcher. Red Tories are like Benjamin Disraeli. The Blue Tories are in power at the moment, One Nation Conservativism is on the outs. I'm sure the pendulum will swing back one day, but for the foreseeable future, the Thatcherites are in control. Red Tories were driven out of power in the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada in the mid-late 80's and early 90's and the Blue Tories have had the reigns ever since, both federally and provincially.

[clubgop]

The Tories are internationalists. Being right of center doesn't make you a nationalist. Monte is right to point out that nationalist parties are not successful in British politics, because they aren't. Those are the facts.

That is all pre Brexit. Right now through the lense of remain or leave. Leavers are in control. A Tory vote is a vote for Brexit. As far as UKIP's failure from an outsider perspective is a victim of one's success. They have fullfilled their purpose accomplished their mission and there shan't be any creeping. I wish all other government functions worked that way.

Many Tories voted against Brexit. UKIP has not succeeded in flipping the Tories to the nationalist camp, the establishment of the party is still pro-Remain.

And plenty of Labour voters voted leave. The establishment of both parties lost but only one party seems to be getting the message.

[StCapps]

That is all pre Brexit. Right now through the lense of remain or leave. Leavers are in control. A Tory vote is a vote for Brexit. As far as UKIP's failure from an outsider perspective is a victim of one's success. They have fullfilled their purpose accomplished their mission and there shan't be any creeping. I wish all other government functions worked that way.

Many Tories voted against Brexit. UKIP has not succeeded in flipping the Tories to the nationalist camp, the establishment of the party is still pro-Remain.

And plenty of Labour voters voted leave. The establishment of both parties lost but only one party seems to be getting the message.

The Tories are just better at pandering, they haven't changed, they are just fronting like they have for the votes, still the same-old same-old.

[clubgop]

Many Tories voted against Brexit. UKIP has not succeeded in flipping the Tories to the nationalist camp, the establishment of the party is still pro-Remain.

And plenty of Labour voters voted leave. The establishment of both parties lost but only one party seems to be getting the message.

The Tories are just better at pandering, they haven't changed, they are just fronting like they have for the votes, still the same-old same-old.

So you voting May 27th?